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When installing Windows, I had to unplug the ethernet during a particular setup screen to avoid having every login checked against my cloud account. It put Cand
by jjoonathan 6y ago
When installing Windows, I had to unplug the ethernet during a particular setup screen to avoid having every login checked against my cloud account. It put Candy Crush and Farmville ads in my start menu without consent. I remember having to spend effort to get Cortana to go away and (maybe) not send my searches to the cloud.
In MacOS, we've recently seen: pushy siri, sending search results to the cloud, and yesterday the OCSP failure made it obvious they were sending logs of every app launch to the cloud :/ . It's the same direction, even if they aren't yet quite as lost as Microsoft.
- threeseed 6y agoYou opted in to enabling Siri and they are simply validating the signatures on the apps.
- Rebelgecko 6y agoI don't think I ever opted in to Siri. How can I turn it off? I've disabled it from the menu bar but it's still on the touchbar, just waiting for me to slightly miss the delete key
- my123 6y agoSystem Preferences -> Siri and then disable the Ask Siri checkbox in the left.
- Rebelgecko 6y agoAlas, that didnt remove it from the touchbar
- threeseed 6y agoIt’s one of the installer screens you get every time you install or upgrade OSX. You would’ve seen it at least a dozen times by now.
- ordinaryradical 6y agoTo remove Siri from the touchbar: System Preferences -> Keyboard Click on "Customize Control strip" You then drag and drop items on and off the touchbar. It is a totally inane, unintuitive interface and it took me forever to find it. Also, I couldn't figure out how to change it because the option DISAPPEARS if you're trying to customize in clamshell mode. The touch bar has to be open I can't tell if it's deliberately bad UX, but I spent months being asked if I wanted to turn on Siri typing on this keyboard...
- jooize 6y agoI feel like macOS asks me about Siri and privacy at login after every major update, with an unskippable setup window, but at least after account creation. Open System Preferences > Siri and disable Ask Siri. You can edit the Touch Bar via a menu in Finder.
- s_tec 6y agoI know, right? What's with all these people, expecting their personal computers to respect their privacy? If you want cool features, just be quiet and let Apple send whatever data they want to their servers. It's fine!
- filoleg 6y agoDid you miss the part where the parent reply said "opted in enabling Siri"? I mean, if you enable a completely optional feature that requires giving up a bit of privacy for its literal intended functionality, how is it Apple's fault? And unlike Cortana on Windows 10, you can disable Siri feature just with a click of a button, or you can just click a button to not enable it in the first place. When you start your new Mac for the first time, it asks you very explicitly if you want it enabled or not.
- jjoonathan 6y agoI complained about Siri being _pushy_. It is. That's Apple's fault. If you opt out of Siri, that should be the end of it. It should not constantly nag you to enable it with an update-available style box and it should not drop a button in the button bar right above the delete key where it is guaranteed to get accidental presses.
- rudedogg 6y agoThis annoys me too. Every time I update my phone it asks and doesn’t go away until I go into settings. Really off-putting and unexpected from Apple.
- PopsiclePete 6y agoI feel like there's some over-reaction here. You pretty much have to either: 1. allow blanket access to all executables 2. perform some sort of validation/verification Most people are not as technical as the people on this site, and we know that blanket access to all executables is not a great idea. MacOS is not immune to malware. Having executables be signed means the signature has to be checked and the certificate has to be checked to see if it hasn't been revoked. I don't see how to do that without "phoning home" and checking, tbh. I mean yes Apple could enable some expert setting or something for developer/expert types where you can say "trust me I know what I'm doing" but a lot of people who don't know what they're doing will enable that and then malware will run rampant again. It's a shitty situation. But I'm not going to go down the paranoia rabbit-hole of assuming this is done to spy on me. At least not yet.
- jjoonathan 6y agoEver tried to opt out of Siri? I have. It nags you constantly. You search, looking for a gist to nuke it, but what you find doesn't work. Finally, you give in, just to get the damn thing to shut up.
- ink404 6y agoI'm currently opted out and haven't been getting nagged at all on MacOS 10.15
- jjoonathan 6y agoHow'd you do it? Any chance you remember the command that worked?
- internet2000 6y agoJust uncheck the box on System Preferences: https://i.imgur.com/FCuNZMO.png https://i.imgur.com/FCuNZMO.png I don't even remember Siri also exists on Mac OS most times.
- jjoonathan 6y agoIf I put my preferences in that state I get nagged to enable Siri every morning. I'm on 10.15.5 (19F101). I guess I'm in the wrong leg of the A/B test. Fing fantastic.
- acdha 6y agoThis sounds like you may have a corrupt preference file somewhere - perhaps deleting ~/Library/Preferences/co. On a normal install, you'll only be asked to enable on major OS releases. Since you're also on an old version of Catalina it'd be a good idea to install the security updates, too. You could try to delete all of the preference files: find ~/Library/Preferences/ -iname com.apple.siri\* -delete
- retromario 6y agoHow does one disable the signature validation?
- Reason077 6y agoIn /etc/hosts: 0.0.0.0 ocsp.apple.com then: sudo dscacheutil -flushcache; sudo killall -HUP mDNSResponder # refresh hosts Or alternatively: defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.security.revocation.plist CRLStyle None defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.security.revocation.plist OCSPStyle None defaults write com.apple.security.revocation.plist CRLStyle None defaults write com.apple.security.revocation.plist OCSPStyle None
- zerocrates 6y agoDisabling OCSP (I believe you have a typo in your hosts file suggestion, by the way) presumably doesn't actually disable notarization, just the OCSP (checking for revoked certificates) part of that process.
- Reason077 6y agoYes, thanks. Edited to fix.