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They (Craig F) stated that’s not what they are doing. They aren’t merging paradigms. They are bringing the best bits of iOS to macOS

systemvoltage 6y ago
UI changes in MacOS Big Sur are totally uncalled for. They’re designed for touch displays.
- threeseed 6y ago
  It’s designed to unify the Mac and iOS experiences. Why ? Because once everyone starts using iOS apps on their Mac eg. Netflix, Outlook Mac-only apps will slowly disappear. Hence you will need a look and feel that works on touch.
  - nkozyra 6y ago
    Do people really see this happening? It's been one of those big promises for nearly a decade and we're really nowhere near closer to it. You can run android apps on chrome(/chromium) and other than for novelty I don't know anyone who does so.
    - threeseed 6y ago
      How are we nowhere close when you can run iOS apps today on M1 ?
      - nkozyra 6y ago
        The promise that people use mobile apps in lieu of desktop apps, not that it's technically possible. As I mentioned, chrome and chromium have enabled this for android for awhile now.
    - canofbars 6y ago
      The Android tablet scene is almost non existent. With the ipad pro and magic keyboard you could realistically use an ipad as a laptop if the software you needed was on it. I imagine that eventually devs will target pro software for the ipad and have it come to macos for free.
- sooheon 6y ago
  Agreed. Giant titlebars taking up vertical screen space is a clear concession for fingerability.
  - tpush 6y ago
    No, it's a "concession" for legibility. And I think they look very nice (much nicer than the old grey ones), too.
    - sooheon 6y ago
      They just struck me as absurdly large for mouse interaction but sensible if you plan to introduce touchscreen at some point. Ditto for all the control center controls. See also this marketing asset that shows finger interaction with Mac OS: https://twitter.com/mantia/status/1327055883025539072?s=21 https://twitter.com/mantia/status/1327055883025539072?s=21
- zepto 6y ago
  As someone who wants a minimal experience for developing, I like the changes. You can turn off the menu bar, the rounded corners just look nicer, and I’d rather have simple looking icons than a bunch of words in the UI.

systemvoltage 6y ago

UI changes in MacOS Big Sur are totally uncalled for. They’re designed for touch displays.

threeseed 6y ago
It’s designed to unify the Mac and iOS experiences. Why ? Because once everyone starts using iOS apps on their Mac eg. Netflix, Outlook Mac-only apps will slowly disappear. Hence you will need a look and feel that works on touch.
- nkozyra 6y ago
  Do people really see this happening? It's been one of those big promises for nearly a decade and we're really nowhere near closer to it. You can run android apps on chrome(/chromium) and other than for novelty I don't know anyone who does so.
  - threeseed 6y ago
    How are we nowhere close when you can run iOS apps today on M1 ?
    - nkozyra 6y ago
      The promise that people use mobile apps in lieu of desktop apps, not that it's technically possible. As I mentioned, chrome and chromium have enabled this for android for awhile now.
  - canofbars 6y ago
    The Android tablet scene is almost non existent. With the ipad pro and magic keyboard you could realistically use an ipad as a laptop if the software you needed was on it. I imagine that eventually devs will target pro software for the ipad and have it come to macos for free.
sooheon 6y ago
Agreed. Giant titlebars taking up vertical screen space is a clear concession for fingerability.
- tpush 6y ago
  No, it's a "concession" for legibility. And I think they look very nice (much nicer than the old grey ones), too.
  - sooheon 6y ago
    They just struck me as absurdly large for mouse interaction but sensible if you plan to introduce touchscreen at some point. Ditto for all the control center controls. See also this marketing asset that shows finger interaction with Mac OS: https://twitter.com/mantia/status/1327055883025539072?s=21 https://twitter.com/mantia/status/1327055883025539072?s=21
zepto 6y ago
As someone who wants a minimal experience for developing, I like the changes. You can turn off the menu bar, the rounded corners just look nicer, and I’d rather have simple looking icons than a bunch of words in the UI.