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> 2. The media, in new and unusual ways, has abandoned the goal of neutrality in reporting. Which media are we talking about? There have always been left, neut

> 2. The media, in new and unusual ways, has abandoned the goal of neutrality in reporting. Which media are we talking about? There have always been left, neutral, and right-leaning media, but in the last four years the neutral media was painted as being biased against the president because they reported the facts. The facts, they're very unflattering. The president has brought the pro wrestling 'heel' character into national politics and reporting on that reality is not bias. > It's another thing to shut down a Country along the same lines in 2020. The actual mandated shutdowns were pretty weak and pretty temporary. The real damage to the economy has come from people being rational actors and voluntarily practicing social distancing, resulting in heavily stifled demand. See: Sweden. Famously not mandating lockdowns but their economy suffered nonetheless.

arrosenberg 6y ago
> Which media are we talking about? There have always been left, neutral, and right-leaning media, but in the last four years the neutral media was painted as being biased against the president because they reported the facts. The facts, they're very unflattering. The president has brought the pro wrestling 'heel' character into national politics and reporting on that reality is not bias. I think it's more the way they are playing both sides. The best example being the New York Times — a well-beaten, but still-living horse. They get painted as biased for reporting the facts about Trump, but simultaneously they engage in palace intrigue journalism that softens the administration's image and run it well ahead of page 6. That's not neutrality, it's duplicity.
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Digory 6y ago
On media, the NYT predicament seems clear: >“Philosophy schmosiphy,” wrote a researcher at the Times whose Slack avatar was the logo for the hamburger chain Jack in the Box. “We’re at a barricades moment in our history. You decide: which side are you on?” The Times has always been liberal. But among liberals, employees at the Times think norms have eroded to a "barricades" moment, and perceive the old "he kept the paper straight" neutrality as a betrayal of progress. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/11/inside-the-new-york-times-heated-reckoning-with-itself.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/11/inside-the-new-york-...
- mullingitover 6y ago
  > The Times has always been liberal. They're liberal in the same way the democrats who endorsed the invasion of Iraq were liberal - that is to say, weakly centrist in right-leaning environment.

arrosenberg 6y ago

> Which media are we talking about? There have always been left, neutral, and right-leaning media, but in the last four years the neutral media was painted as being biased against the president because they reported the facts. The facts, they're very unflattering. The president has brought the pro wrestling 'heel' character into national politics and reporting on that reality is not bias. I think it's more the way they are playing both sides. The best example being the New York Times — a well-beaten, but still-living horse. They get painted as biased for reporting the facts about Trump, but simultaneously they engage in palace intrigue journalism that softens the administration's image and run it well ahead of page 6. That's not neutrality, it's duplicity.

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Digory 6y ago

On media, the NYT predicament seems clear: >“Philosophy schmosiphy,” wrote a researcher at the Times whose Slack avatar was the logo for the hamburger chain Jack in the Box. “We’re at a barricades moment in our history. You decide: which side are you on?” The Times has always been liberal. But among liberals, employees at the Times think norms have eroded to a "barricades" moment, and perceive the old "he kept the paper straight" neutrality as a betrayal of progress. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/11/inside-the-new-york-times-heated-reckoning-with-itself.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/11/inside-the-new-york-...

mullingitover 6y ago
> The Times has always been liberal. They're liberal in the same way the democrats who endorsed the invasion of Iraq were liberal - that is to say, weakly centrist in right-leaning environment.