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Last year has had a greater loss of norms of Western thought than we have seen since the dawn of the modern world in almost every Western country. Say what you
by drilldrive 6y ago
Last year has had a greater loss of norms of Western thought than we have seen since the dawn of the modern world in almost every Western country. Say what you want about the virus response, but powers that be don't give up newly founded power after they seized it once (the lockdowns never will truly end).
- bryanrasmussen 6y ago>the lockdowns never will truly end unless, somehow, it should turn out they were really bad for business in which case out they go once no longer needed. on edit: clarification at end.
- elipsey 6y agoThey did last time, and in the middle of the Palmer Raids at that. The necessary and proper use of pulic health orders during pandemics has been thourougly adjuticed in the US, and has a basis in precedent centuries old. This is hardly a regression. Why don't you worry instead about whether we get a trial before we get shot or locked up?
- drilldrive 6y agoThe difference of today is our world's global businesses look up to the major Communist force of our world today instead of seeing it as a competitor, they have noted the methods of censorship and totalitarianism and have taken notes back-home.
- devenblake 6y agoChina is Communist the same way the third reich was Socialist: in name only.
- drilldrive 6y agoJust taken a bit off guard: do you not dispute the other claim?
- devenblake 6y agoI think the general point is correct but I don't think the businesses are influenced by China specifically. That puts too little blame on us. Our home-grown flavor of fascism is influenced by Nazi Germany in particular but has far outpaced it by systematically co-opting and diluting any attempts to divert from the status quo. Pride parades are paid for by banks, Black Lives Matter is supported by companies with histories of racial discrimination, hell, the phrase "All Cops Are Bastards" was taken by Liberals to mean "some cops (not your friends) are bastards (but they're good people just forced to do some bad stuff)". The Right has convinced the populace that the Left wants to censor and restrict the people when in reality the opposite is true. Embrace, Extend, Extinguish. I think China is still learning to ride the bike of authoritarianism. A truly totalitarian government will seem to its people to be completely democratic.
- mrguyorama 6y agoJesus christ man, responding to a national health crisis in exactly the same way we did 100 years ago does not make us and authoritarian government. What's next, "the food rationing so our troops can keep fighting the actual nazis make us just as bad as them"?
- lostcolony 6y ago"If I can afford it I should be able to buy more than 4 gallons of gas a week! We're a capitalist society, not socialist! Market forces will solve this! Down with rationing!"
- paradox242 6y agoAre the "powers to be" simple comic book villains motivated by something as simple as a hatred of freedom? Why would governments across the world nearly uniformly sabotage their own economies for something so intangible? And all acting in concert? Communist China and the capitalist USA are in this together? Game theory alone tells you that if this were deliberate and unnecessary then there would be an immense payoff to any power that decided not to wreck their economy as this would catapult them ahead of their neighbors. I am reading some unstated skepticism about the scope or severity of the pandemic in your response here, the so-called "Plandemic". I would urge you to look at this issue again, as you clearly are concerned about creeping authoritarianism, but feel you are making a serious attribution error here.
- SavageBeast 6y agoIts almost like there is some ulterior motive surrounding COVID for some reason - though damned if I can figure out what it is!