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Because it's literally their job to protect their patients from infection? It's not like we've just recently found out that the elderly are especially vulnerabl

Because it's literally their job to protect their patients from infection? It's not like we've just recently found out that the elderly are especially vulnerable to Covid-19. If a website left their admin portal open, didn't set a password and then got hacked, would you put the blame for that on the script kiddie who did it, or on the website's security team?

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- throw1122334 6y ago
  Your original statement was "Why does the care facility deserve more blame?". Do you see the word "more" there? Good luck and god bless.
pjc50 6y ago
The only way they could have done this was .. preventing their staff from going to the wedding. Or maybe even preventing them from leaving the site.
- musingsole 6y ago
  That's lazy thinking. There are a whole host of things a care facility can do to mitigate risk with various cost/benefits, but the difference is there is an acute risk at the facility while a distributed risk for anyone outside. It obviously makes sense to implement more protections at the vulnerable location than blanket policies across the board.
- nostromo 6y ago
  Not true. The long-term care facility could just have required sick employees to stay home. From the article: > A worker at the Maplecrest Rehabilitation and Living Center, a long-term-care facility 100 miles from Millinocket in Madison, Maine, came down with a “fever, chills, cough, myalgia, runny nose, and headache” — all symptoms consistent with COVID-19. This worker’s child had attended the wedding reception, and the two had been in close contact in the days right afterward. > Despite having obvious signs of illness, the Maplecrest employee went to work that day, and the next.
  - otterley 6y ago
    But that's not enough. Since a person can be infected without having any symptoms, they can operate as a vector and infect the nursing home residents -- all without violating the policy.
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dang 6y ago
Could you please stop creating accounts for every few comments you post? We ban accounts that do that. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. You needn't use your real name, of course, but for HN to be a community, users need some identity for other users to relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community, and that would be a different kind of forum. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix&page=0&query=community%20identity%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

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throw1122334 6y ago
Your original statement was "Why does the care facility deserve more blame?". Do you see the word "more" there? Good luck and god bless.

pjc50 6y ago

The only way they could have done this was .. preventing their staff from going to the wedding. Or maybe even preventing them from leaving the site.

musingsole 6y ago
That's lazy thinking. There are a whole host of things a care facility can do to mitigate risk with various cost/benefits, but the difference is there is an acute risk at the facility while a distributed risk for anyone outside. It obviously makes sense to implement more protections at the vulnerable location than blanket policies across the board.
nostromo 6y ago
Not true. The long-term care facility could just have required sick employees to stay home. From the article: > A worker at the Maplecrest Rehabilitation and Living Center, a long-term-care facility 100 miles from Millinocket in Madison, Maine, came down with a “fever, chills, cough, myalgia, runny nose, and headache” — all symptoms consistent with COVID-19. This worker’s child had attended the wedding reception, and the two had been in close contact in the days right afterward. > Despite having obvious signs of illness, the Maplecrest employee went to work that day, and the next.
- otterley 6y ago
  But that's not enough. Since a person can be infected without having any symptoms, they can operate as a vector and infect the nursing home residents -- all without violating the policy.

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dang 6y ago

Could you please stop creating accounts for every few comments you post? We ban accounts that do that. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. You needn't use your real name, of course, but for HN to be a community, users need some identity for other users to relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community, and that would be a different kind of forum. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix&page=0&query=community%20identity%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...