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The armed occupation of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge was also “mostly peaceful.” Much more peaceful than CHAZ/CHOP, in fact. I am friends with people who lived
by _iyig 6y ago
The armed occupation of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge was also “mostly peaceful.” Much more peaceful than CHAZ/CHOP, in fact.
I am friends with people who lived close by and visited the CHAZ/CHOP, and I watched live-streams from the CHAZ nearly 24/7 for the entire span of its existence. It was a lawless area patrolled by gun wielding far-left activists who routinely harassed journalists, ripped phones out of streamers’ hands to delete footage of the “security team’s” deadly mistakes, assaulted visitors of the wrong political stripe, and ultimately were responsible for the shooting deaths of several people. While the atmosphere was more “street festival” during the day, at least for a while, at night and as the occupation wore on it swiftly devolved into violent anarchy.
Remember Raz Simone, the local rapper who showed up on the first night with an AK-47? Remember how he handed out rifles to seemingly random untrained people from the trunk of a car? Remember how his crew assaulted and pistol-whipped a graffiti tagger on the very first night of CHAZ/CHOP, on a Facebook Live stream, saying “we are the police now?” Many similar incidents.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-autonomous-zone-leaders-warlord-no-cop-co-op https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-autonomous-zone-leaders-w...
- OminousWeapons 6y agoPrecisely this. It was unacceptable when Bundy et al performed their actions, and what occurred in CHAZ / CHOP was equally unacceptable. The fact that people do not see these events as roughly analogous is amazing to me.
- dahfizz 6y agoIt's amazing what people overlook when the offenders belong to the same tribe as you.
- ip26 6y agoIt's pretty hard to be sure you've got the right story with the latter, though. Makes it hard to pass judgement. I think Bundy et al was fairly cut and dried, generally everybody agreed on what happened, and disagreed on whether it was OK.
- jolux 6y agoWhere's your evidence that the security team were responsible for the shooting deaths of several people?
- armenarmen 6y agoumm this? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53224445 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53224445
- jolux 6y agoNo one disputes there was violence. What is disputed is who perpetrated it. As far as I know, there is no evidence it was committed by CHOP participants.
- armenarmen 6y agohttps://mobile.twitter.com/Bigoleboy420/status/1287132537329012736 https://mobile.twitter.com/Bigoleboy420/status/1287132537329...
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- _iyig 6y agoHere is a protestor describing in vivid detail the killing of Antonio Mays Jr. by CHOP security, minutes after it happened while his blood is still wet on the ground. Clipped from Omari Salisbury’s stream (warning - disturbing): https://youtube.com/watch?v=q5bA-iUPvqI&t=1m27s https://youtube.com/watch?v=q5bA-iUPvqI&t=1m27s Lorenzo Anderson was shot inside CHOP (though not by the “security team”), and died after amateur CHOP medics and confused city EMS flubbed his medevac. EMS couldn’t get to him quickly since the shooting scene wasn’t able to be secured. https://www.kuow.org/stories/seattle-police-and-fire-confusion-slowed-response-to-chop-shooting-not-protesters https://www.kuow.org/stories/seattle-police-and-fire-confusi...