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> You have to be in a high risk group. You have to be in a high risk group for what? To die? As far as I know, while some health conditions or age raise risk o

> You have to be in a high risk group. You have to be in a high risk group for what? To die? As far as I know, while some health conditions or age raise risk of covid death or morbidity, there is no group that is without risk of death, i.e. anyone might die from Covid19. Is that your understanding as well, or do you know of some demographic group that has experienced 0 deaths?

snazz 6y ago
To play the devil's advocate, the line of reasoning you used in your comment isn't very useful. Just because more than zero 5- to 14-year-olds have died from covid does not negate the fact that their risk is minuscule compared to other age groups. With a large enough sample size, there are always going to be outliers.
- sequoia 6y ago
  Fair enough. But this "I don't have to worry because I'm young and healthy!" besides being incredibly selfish (implied "who cares if I kill people around me by spreading the virus") it's also bullshit: it is not true that you don't have to worry, that there's no risk of mortality or morbidity. I am happy to grant that the risk is much smaller, but just like the "kids can't get or spread covid" MYTH that people have been grasping to for dear life in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, this "only old people die of it" myth needs to be squashed.
  - orangecat 6y ago
    it is not true that you don't have to worry, that there's no risk of mortality or morbidity For young healthy people, it's true in the same sense that you don't have to worry about getting struck by lightning or attacked by a shark. These things happen, but they're so rare that it's silly to go through your life in constant fear. besides being incredibly selfish It is not selfish to consider whether it's possible to protect vulnerable people without demanding that everyone give up their social lives, children's education, and jobs for a year. just like the "kids can't get or spread covid" MYTH that people have been grasping to for dear life in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary What evidence? Schools haven't been significant drivers of infection or deaths anywhere in the world. Yes, the risk is not literally zero, but if that's your criterion then you'd never leave your bedroom. this "only old people die of it" myth needs to be squashed If everyone had the risk factor of a healthy 30 year old (say, 1 in 10,000 chance of death and 1 in 2500 chance of serious complications), would you still support shutting everything down?

snazz 6y ago

To play the devil's advocate, the line of reasoning you used in your comment isn't very useful. Just because more than zero 5- to 14-year-olds have died from covid does not negate the fact that their risk is minuscule compared to other age groups. With a large enough sample size, there are always going to be outliers.

sequoia 6y ago
Fair enough. But this "I don't have to worry because I'm young and healthy!" besides being incredibly selfish (implied "who cares if I kill people around me by spreading the virus") it's also bullshit: it is not true that you don't have to worry, that there's no risk of mortality or morbidity. I am happy to grant that the risk is much smaller, but just like the "kids can't get or spread covid" MYTH that people have been grasping to for dear life in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, this "only old people die of it" myth needs to be squashed.
- orangecat 6y ago
  it is not true that you don't have to worry, that there's no risk of mortality or morbidity For young healthy people, it's true in the same sense that you don't have to worry about getting struck by lightning or attacked by a shark. These things happen, but they're so rare that it's silly to go through your life in constant fear. besides being incredibly selfish It is not selfish to consider whether it's possible to protect vulnerable people without demanding that everyone give up their social lives, children's education, and jobs for a year. just like the "kids can't get or spread covid" MYTH that people have been grasping to for dear life in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary What evidence? Schools haven't been significant drivers of infection or deaths anywhere in the world. Yes, the risk is not literally zero, but if that's your criterion then you'd never leave your bedroom. this "only old people die of it" myth needs to be squashed If everyone had the risk factor of a healthy 30 year old (say, 1 in 10,000 chance of death and 1 in 2500 chance of serious complications), would you still support shutting everything down?