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It’s interesting that the reporter here is shaming a wedding reception and not the long-term care facility where the deaths actually occurred. And not shaming
by nostromo 6y ago
It’s interesting that the reporter here is shaming a wedding reception and not the long-term care facility where the deaths actually occurred.
And not shaming for people for going to work with obvious Covid-19 symptoms, both to a prison and a long-term care facility.
It’s clear the editors needed a story about family gatherings and not yet another story about old folks homes being high risk.
- otterley 6y agoWhy does the care facility deserve more blame?
- throw1122334 6y agoBecause it's literally their job to protect their patients from infection? It's not like we've just recently found out that the elderly are especially vulnerable to Covid-19. If a website left their admin portal open, didn't set a password and then got hacked, would you put the blame for that on the script kiddie who did it, or on the website's security team?
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- throw1122334 6y agoYour original statement was "Why does the care facility deserve more blame?". Do you see the word "more" there? Good luck and god bless.
- pjc50 6y agoThe only way they could have done this was .. preventing their staff from going to the wedding. Or maybe even preventing them from leaving the site.
- musingsole 6y agoThat's lazy thinking. There are a whole host of things a care facility can do to mitigate risk with various cost/benefits, but the difference is there is an acute risk at the facility while a distributed risk for anyone outside. It obviously makes sense to implement more protections at the vulnerable location than blanket policies across the board.
- nostromo 6y agoNot true. The long-term care facility could just have required sick employees to stay home. From the article: > A worker at the Maplecrest Rehabilitation and Living Center, a long-term-care facility 100 miles from Millinocket in Madison, Maine, came down with a “fever, chills, cough, myalgia, runny nose, and headache” — all symptoms consistent with COVID-19. This worker’s child had attended the wedding reception, and the two had been in close contact in the days right afterward. > Despite having obvious signs of illness, the Maplecrest employee went to work that day, and the next.
- otterley 6y agoBut that's not enough. Since a person can be infected without having any symptoms, they can operate as a vector and infect the nursing home residents -- all without violating the policy.
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- dang 6y agoCould you please stop creating accounts for every few comments you post? We ban accounts that do that. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. You needn't use your real name, of course, but for HN to be a community, users need some identity for other users to relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community, and that would be a different kind of forum. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix&page=0&query=community%20identity%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
- joeax 6y agoIf the care facility is housing at-risk patients, they should have strict protocols in place for visitors. Shaming a wedding here seems irresponsible by the media considering these people could have picked up Covid anywhere like Walmart.
- otterley 6y agoIt's not irresponsible. Holding these sorts of events without proper protocols increases the risk of secondary infection to society at large. The impact at the nursing home is collateral damage. Walmart, on the other hand, requires customers to wear masks, and they have and will impose occupancy limits as needed to help minimize exposure. While we cannot practically reduce the risk of infection to zero, we should also behave wisely. This applies both inside the nursing home and outside it.
- adolph 6y agoBecause risk mitigation is linked to risk profile. Even in non-pandemic times an immunocompromised person or caregiver thereof must behave differently from someone who is not.
- theplague42 6y agoThe wedding makes the jobs of the facility employees a lot harder.
- nostromo 6y agoThe facility employees should never go to work with Covid-19 symptoms, including “fever, chills, cough, myalgia, runny nose, and headache”, regardless of the wedding.
- otterley 6y agoBut that's not enough. Since a person can be infected without having any symptoms, they can operate as a vector and infect the nursing home residents -- all without violating the policy.
- ghthor 6y agoYeah, this is a hit piece aimed to demoralize the populace into not enjoying the holidays with their families.