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Are you trying to say the authors don’t exist because some troll entered a fake name on their website? Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard U

Are you trying to say the authors don’t exist because some troll entered a fake name on their website? Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations. Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases. Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.

raesene9 6y ago
The great barrington declaration is undoubtedly not fake, in that the core people who put their names to it have not said they didn't. The volume of support is of course dubious as the only requirement for saying that a "medical professional" was signing it, was a check box on a web form. the challenge I see with the declaration's approach is that (AFAIK) it skips over the hard part of how "Focused Protection." is actually implemented. It's super easy to write a web page saying that we should use "focused protection" to avoid heavy loss of life to Covid, and much much harder to design and implement a workable strategy. This article actually demonstrates that problem. A worker at a care facility spread it to a set of vulnerable people. How would "focused protection" have stopped that? There may be an answer, but I don't see that information from the Great Barrington declaration.
- orangecat 6y ago
  it skips over the hard part of how "Focused Protection." is actually implemented That's a reasonable criticism, but I would point out that the "responsible" strategy of trying to force entire populations into quarantine has not survived contact with reality either. A worker at a care facility spread it to a set of vulnerable people The worker should have been living on site, or if that's not possible seeing literally nobody outside of their job. And we should be paying them huge amounts of money to compensate for that disruption.
f38zf5vdt 6y ago
Are you trying to say the authors don’t exist because some troll entered a fake name on their website? Huber, Gary. Chief of Respiratory Diseases at Boston City Hospital’s Harvard Medical Unit Kilpatrick, James. Biostatistics. Medical College of Virginia, Richmond, VA Wexler, Lawrence M. Epidemiology @ New York Medical College, Valhalla, NY Wu, Joseph M. Biochemistry, molecular biology @ New York Medical College, Valhalla, NY Ecobichon, Donald. Toxicology @ McGill University, Quebec, QC These are all people who wrote in favour of tobacco not causing cancer in individuals for the tobacco lobby. There were many other equally credentialed individuals who also said so. If you put enough money in front of an unscrupulous individual, no matter their background, they'll tell you whatever you want to hear.

raesene9 6y ago

The great barrington declaration is undoubtedly not fake, in that the core people who put their names to it have not said they didn't. The volume of support is of course dubious as the only requirement for saying that a "medical professional" was signing it, was a check box on a web form. the challenge I see with the declaration's approach is that (AFAIK) it skips over the hard part of how "Focused Protection." is actually implemented. It's super easy to write a web page saying that we should use "focused protection" to avoid heavy loss of life to Covid, and much much harder to design and implement a workable strategy. This article actually demonstrates that problem. A worker at a care facility spread it to a set of vulnerable people. How would "focused protection" have stopped that? There may be an answer, but I don't see that information from the Great Barrington declaration.

orangecat 6y ago
it skips over the hard part of how "Focused Protection." is actually implemented That's a reasonable criticism, but I would point out that the "responsible" strategy of trying to force entire populations into quarantine has not survived contact with reality either. A worker at a care facility spread it to a set of vulnerable people The worker should have been living on site, or if that's not possible seeing literally nobody outside of their job. And we should be paying them huge amounts of money to compensate for that disruption.

f38zf5vdt 6y ago

Are you trying to say the authors don’t exist because some troll entered a fake name on their website? Huber, Gary. Chief of Respiratory Diseases at Boston City Hospital’s Harvard Medical Unit Kilpatrick, James. Biostatistics. Medical College of Virginia, Richmond, VA Wexler, Lawrence M. Epidemiology @ New York Medical College, Valhalla, NY Wu, Joseph M. Biochemistry, molecular biology @ New York Medical College, Valhalla, NY Ecobichon, Donald. Toxicology @ McGill University, Quebec, QC These are all people who wrote in favour of tobacco not causing cancer in individuals for the tobacco lobby. There were many other equally credentialed individuals who also said so. If you put enough money in front of an unscrupulous individual, no matter their background, they'll tell you whatever you want to hear.