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punishing people at the poverty level for VC behavior is terrible.

lotsofpulp 6y ago
I minimize the services I use that “require” tipping, because I philosophically oppose it. Would the workers prefer I spend $0 rather than some?
- ghaff 6y ago
  I really hope you avoid using any service where tipping is the expected norm if you won't tip. Otherwise, I hope that you either grudgingly tip or simply avoid those services whether it's convenient to do so or not.
jgalt212 6y ago
yes, on a certain level you're right. it's a tough problem to fix. similar to the war refugee situation. if people feel it's very easy to flee a bad situation, then there's less of an incentive to keep your own house in order. but if people have nowhere to go, they'll invest and fight to keep their homes good places to live. see also, white flight.
- bobthepanda 6y ago
  How are war refugees supposed to fix the fact that they are getting bombed out of their homes, particularly in one of the most recent scenarios as part of a civil war?
  - jgalt212 6y ago
    If the attacking party knows - the opponent will flee or - the opponent will fight to the death Don't you think that would affect the attacking party's plans?
    - bobthepanda 6y ago
      I don't think this is a distinction that matters to a government prepared to indiscriminately kill anyone, combatant or civilian, to maintain control.
- toiletfuneral 6y ago
  lmao ok 'John Galt', you literally sound like a sociopath but I know that's a common theme with libertarians
- vikramkr 6y ago
  I'm not sure how, but I think you've managed to find the worst possible example to rhetorically support the idea that poverty level people should be punished for VC behavior or even try and claim that it is a tough problem with moral grey area. You are going to find very very little sympathy for an argument that, if you are an unarmed civilian being killed in a genocide, then really its really your own fault for not keeping your house in order, and allowing your family to not be murdered by letting them leave would only disincentivize them from investing in their community to stop the violence somehow. Surely there is a better analogy for doordash drivers than that?

I minimize the services I use that “require” tipping, because I philosophically oppose it. Would the workers prefer I spend $0 rather than some?

ghaff 6y ago
I really hope you avoid using any service where tipping is the expected norm if you won't tip. Otherwise, I hope that you either grudgingly tip or simply avoid those services whether it's convenient to do so or not.

jgalt212 6y ago

yes, on a certain level you're right. it's a tough problem to fix. similar to the war refugee situation. if people feel it's very easy to flee a bad situation, then there's less of an incentive to keep your own house in order. but if people have nowhere to go, they'll invest and fight to keep their homes good places to live. see also, white flight.

bobthepanda 6y ago
How are war refugees supposed to fix the fact that they are getting bombed out of their homes, particularly in one of the most recent scenarios as part of a civil war?
- jgalt212 6y ago
  If the attacking party knows - the opponent will flee or - the opponent will fight to the death Don't you think that would affect the attacking party's plans?
  - bobthepanda 6y ago
    I don't think this is a distinction that matters to a government prepared to indiscriminately kill anyone, combatant or civilian, to maintain control.
toiletfuneral 6y ago
lmao ok 'John Galt', you literally sound like a sociopath but I know that's a common theme with libertarians
vikramkr 6y ago
I'm not sure how, but I think you've managed to find the worst possible example to rhetorically support the idea that poverty level people should be punished for VC behavior or even try and claim that it is a tough problem with moral grey area. You are going to find very very little sympathy for an argument that, if you are an unarmed civilian being killed in a genocide, then really its really your own fault for not keeping your house in order, and allowing your family to not be murdered by letting them leave would only disincentivize them from investing in their community to stop the violence somehow. Surely there is a better analogy for doordash drivers than that?