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The left and right deploy violence differently. Right wing violence is more precise, organized, surgical. Left wing violence is more chaotic, mob-driven, indisc

The left and right deploy violence differently. Right wing violence is more precise, organized, surgical. Left wing violence is more chaotic, mob-driven, indiscriminate. Hence the mass rioting and destruction this summer, tacitly supported by major sections of the left-wing power structure in the US (local government and media).

jolux 6y ago
Much of the violence at protests this past summer was actually organized by right-wing extremists, possibly as a false flag: https://theintercept.com/2020/07/15/george-floyd-protests-police-far-right-antifa/ https://theintercept.com/2020/07/15/george-floyd-protests-po...
- anonunivgrad 6y ago
  Fake spin meant to assuage the girondins, the well-to-do leftists. The footage and evidence is extensive and obvious.
  - jolux 6y ago
    This is based on information from BlueLeaks, which you're free to call fake spin, and I am free to disagree with you on.
    - ajvs 6y ago
      There's nothing in that article suggesting a false flag. At most Hina Shamsi suggests that leftist actions are being judged more harshly.
      - jolux 6y ago
        Fair enough. Why would right-wingers show up to a left-wing protest with violent intentions? There's no legitimate reason, but I apologize for extrapolating from their actions.
        NicoJuicy 6y ago
        Escalating the situation and change public perception to "hurt the left" seems what I interpret from the situation.
        ajvs 6y ago
        Left-wing protests throughout the summer have frequently turned violent, with it being directed at random passersby, police, businesses, etc. I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to by "violent intentions" but that it has happened frequently in the past is a legitimate reason why right-wingers would show up prepared for the fact that violence will likely commence.
        jolux 6y ago
        You're dodging the question though. Why are right-wingers showing up to a left-wing protest movement in the first place, if they aren't counterprotesting? Wandering around with rifles is not a protest.
        ajvs 6y ago
        Their presence is in itself counterprotest if you're able to figure out they're right-wing in the first place. I'm not sure what type of arbitrary behaviour you're looking for here.
        jolux 6y ago
        It's intimidating to be walking around with guns drawn. That's what I'm trying to get at.
        ajvs 6y ago
        It's also intimidating to try to counterprotest in the face of such a huge mob when there's been numerous instances of violence from them in the past. I certainly wouldn't go without a gun if I were to show up at one of these things lest someone see me as an easy victim.
  - NicoJuicy 6y ago
    https://theintercept.com/2020/07/15/george-floyd-protests-police-far-right-antifa/ https://theintercept.com/2020/07/15/george-floyd-protests-po... > But while the White House beat the drum for a crackdown on a leaderless movement on the left, law enforcement offices across the country were sharing detailed reports of far-right extremists seeking to attack the protesters and police during the country’s historic demonstrations, a trove of newly leaked documents reveals. According to what I saw and interpreted, it was mostly right influence attempting to escalate the situation to "hurt the left". Saying "fake spin" is not going to convince me otherwise. I'd prefer statistics though. ( Belgian, so not in the US)
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jolux 6y ago

Much of the violence at protests this past summer was actually organized by right-wing extremists, possibly as a false flag: https://theintercept.com/2020/07/15/george-floyd-protests-police-far-right-antifa/ https://theintercept.com/2020/07/15/george-floyd-protests-po...

anonunivgrad 6y ago
Fake spin meant to assuage the girondins, the well-to-do leftists. The footage and evidence is extensive and obvious.
- jolux 6y ago
  This is based on information from BlueLeaks, which you're free to call fake spin, and I am free to disagree with you on.
  - ajvs 6y ago
    There's nothing in that article suggesting a false flag. At most Hina Shamsi suggests that leftist actions are being judged more harshly.
    - jolux 6y ago
      Fair enough. Why would right-wingers show up to a left-wing protest with violent intentions? There's no legitimate reason, but I apologize for extrapolating from their actions.
      - NicoJuicy 6y ago
        Escalating the situation and change public perception to "hurt the left" seems what I interpret from the situation.
      - ajvs 6y ago
        Left-wing protests throughout the summer have frequently turned violent, with it being directed at random passersby, police, businesses, etc. I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to by "violent intentions" but that it has happened frequently in the past is a legitimate reason why right-wingers would show up prepared for the fact that violence will likely commence.
        jolux 6y ago
        You're dodging the question though. Why are right-wingers showing up to a left-wing protest movement in the first place, if they aren't counterprotesting? Wandering around with rifles is not a protest.
        ajvs 6y ago
        Their presence is in itself counterprotest if you're able to figure out they're right-wing in the first place. I'm not sure what type of arbitrary behaviour you're looking for here.
        jolux 6y ago
        It's intimidating to be walking around with guns drawn. That's what I'm trying to get at.
        ajvs 6y ago
        It's also intimidating to try to counterprotest in the face of such a huge mob when there's been numerous instances of violence from them in the past. I certainly wouldn't go without a gun if I were to show up at one of these things lest someone see me as an easy victim.
- NicoJuicy 6y ago
  https://theintercept.com/2020/07/15/george-floyd-protests-police-far-right-antifa/ https://theintercept.com/2020/07/15/george-floyd-protests-po... > But while the White House beat the drum for a crackdown on a leaderless movement on the left, law enforcement offices across the country were sharing detailed reports of far-right extremists seeking to attack the protesters and police during the country’s historic demonstrations, a trove of newly leaked documents reveals. According to what I saw and interpreted, it was mostly right influence attempting to escalate the situation to "hurt the left". Saying "fake spin" is not going to convince me otherwise. I'd prefer statistics though. ( Belgian, so not in the US)

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