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A nice reminder that it's pretty easy to setup your own Gitea and Drone. Happy to share details of folks are interested.

by kodah 6y ago

diggan 6y ago
Where are you setting up Gitea and Drone that is protected against DMCA requests? Any US-based host will happily act on DMCA requests. What I'm familiar with is using PRQ (of TPB fame) + Njalla (by TPB co-founder, Peter Sunde), PRQ provides the machines and Njalla the domain, both pro-privacy and will fight claims to protect you, if you're only breaking "piracy" laws (digital ones).
- m-p-3 6y ago
  They can only make a DMCA request if they know where to send it. I guess you could host a gitea server behind a Tor hidden service on the VPS of your choice.
  - diggan 6y ago
    While that would work for most text transfers (or otherwise low-bandwidth usage), many other use cases would be near impossible to get to work with good performance over Tor. Think video hosting and similar.
- kodah 6y ago
  There ain't no stopping the DMCA train. I started hosting my own code at gopherworks.io if you want to see what that roughly looks like. My idea is that, as I said, I can't stop the DMCA train but it's a whole lot harder to take on thousands of small Giteas and SourceHuts than it is to open a pull request on GitHub. We can get the meta-wins of GitHub later by designing some aggregators that talk to Gitea and SourceHut in efficient ways in the future, but for now the pressing matter is to decentralize code hosting, in my view.
  - diggan 6y ago
    > There ain't no stopping the DMCA train There is for sure, check out PRQ and Njalla for just one selection of services that would allow you to ignore DMCA requests. Yeah, I'm really interested in a federated ecosystem of Giteas for sure (https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1612 https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1612), seems ForgeFed might be the way to get there. https://discourse.gitea.io/t/forgefed-federation-in-gitea/1157 https://discourse.gitea.io/t/forgefed-federation-in-gitea/11...
    - kodah 6y ago
      Thanks for that link! I've been pondering these things on my own for quite a bit. Seems like there's a quorum of like-minds now, so I guess I should probably join the discussion.
- jacobwilliamroy 6y ago
  Use vm to to connect to vpn to purchase vps hosting in a foreign country with good internet outside the jurisdiction of U.S. Maybe do some research to see if hosting provider has a history of complying with U.S. laws or cooperating with U.S. law enforcement.

A nice reminder that it's pretty easy to setup your own Gitea and Drone. Happy to share details of folks are interested.

by kodah 6y ago

A nice reminder that it's pretty easy to setup your own Gitea and Drone. Happy to share details of folks are interested.

diggan 6y ago

Where are you setting up Gitea and Drone that is protected against DMCA requests? Any US-based host will happily act on DMCA requests. What I'm familiar with is using PRQ (of TPB fame) + Njalla (by TPB co-founder, Peter Sunde), PRQ provides the machines and Njalla the domain, both pro-privacy and will fight claims to protect you, if you're only breaking "piracy" laws (digital ones).

m-p-3 6y ago
They can only make a DMCA request if they know where to send it. I guess you could host a gitea server behind a Tor hidden service on the VPS of your choice.
- diggan 6y ago
  While that would work for most text transfers (or otherwise low-bandwidth usage), many other use cases would be near impossible to get to work with good performance over Tor. Think video hosting and similar.
kodah 6y ago
There ain't no stopping the DMCA train. I started hosting my own code at gopherworks.io if you want to see what that roughly looks like. My idea is that, as I said, I can't stop the DMCA train but it's a whole lot harder to take on thousands of small Giteas and SourceHuts than it is to open a pull request on GitHub. We can get the meta-wins of GitHub later by designing some aggregators that talk to Gitea and SourceHut in efficient ways in the future, but for now the pressing matter is to decentralize code hosting, in my view.
- diggan 6y ago
  > There ain't no stopping the DMCA train There is for sure, check out PRQ and Njalla for just one selection of services that would allow you to ignore DMCA requests. Yeah, I'm really interested in a federated ecosystem of Giteas for sure (https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1612 https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1612), seems ForgeFed might be the way to get there. https://discourse.gitea.io/t/forgefed-federation-in-gitea/1157 https://discourse.gitea.io/t/forgefed-federation-in-gitea/11...
  - kodah 6y ago
    Thanks for that link! I've been pondering these things on my own for quite a bit. Seems like there's a quorum of like-minds now, so I guess I should probably join the discussion.
jacobwilliamroy 6y ago
Use vm to to connect to vpn to purchase vps hosting in a foreign country with good internet outside the jurisdiction of U.S. Maybe do some research to see if hosting provider has a history of complying with U.S. laws or cooperating with U.S. law enforcement.