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I wonder how much of that is for gaming. The growth and demand for high end gaming parts has been unprecedented. Ie Nvidia's 3080, just about impossible to buy,

I wonder how much of that is for gaming. The growth and demand for high end gaming parts has been unprecedented. Ie Nvidia's 3080, just about impossible to buy, chaotic launch, and AMD's 5900x - very hot property now.

dawnerd 6y ago
It used to be people were blaming the crypto miners for GPU shortages but that doesn’t seem to be the case now.
bhauer 6y ago
Apparently not a whole lot since given the data they show, desktop computing was hit hard. I admit this came as a surprise to me. I had assumed, from a combination of the title and my intuition about 2020, that desktop computing would be enjoying a resurgence. My thinking: many of us are stuck at home and desktop computing is the premium computing experience—especially for enthusiasts, gamers, content creators, engineers, programmers, etc. We're no longer carrying a computer to and from an office each day, so the value of a laptop is diminished. In fact, when my laptop died in April, I didn't replace it for several months because my home workstation is what I'm using every day and I wasn't traveling anywhere. I suppose enthusiasts don't really count for a big enough market to lift the numbers. Still I would have expected 2020 to be flat on desktop computers, not dramatically down.
- tonyedgecombe 6y ago
  I'm guessing that a big chunk of the desktop market was in corporates and they have been switching to laptops while people work from home. That was certainly the case in my wife's office.
  - bhauer 6y ago
    That's a good point. And that must have been large enough to easily more than offset any increase in demand from the home desktop computing enthusiast. For my company, since we didn't want to use a bunch of money to buy new equipment during an economic squeeze, we let the programmers (essentially everyone) take their workstations home, and most did.
  - kube-system 6y ago
    That has been the steady trend for a while. Desktops in offices have been slowly dwindling down to two categories: * Creatives who need more horsepower than a mobile workstation can provide * Hourly employees with minimal computing needs who won't use their computer outside of their cubical Anyone in the middle is better served by a laptop
- volkl48 6y ago
  I'll point out that this appears to be measuring sales from OEMs. I don't think it's capturing anything about people who build their own system, so whether or not that market has grown probably isn't reflected in this.
schnevets 6y ago
I think this one can be chalked up to COVID and the urgent shift to remote life. - Some lucky folks took home shiny new hardware from their employers to connect to the office - Some unlucky folks had to pay out-of-pocket because on their first day working from home they learned Teams doesn't run on a 13 year old Macbook - And yes, some folks splurged on new hardware for COVID-compliant fun (myself included), but newfound imperatives like having to work from home will more effectively drive sales than a shift in taste
kube-system 6y ago
Absolutely none of it. None of the categories that grew in demand are compatible with an RTX 3080.

dawnerd 6y ago

It used to be people were blaming the crypto miners for GPU shortages but that doesn’t seem to be the case now.

bhauer 6y ago

Apparently not a whole lot since given the data they show, desktop computing was hit hard. I admit this came as a surprise to me. I had assumed, from a combination of the title and my intuition about 2020, that desktop computing would be enjoying a resurgence. My thinking: many of us are stuck at home and desktop computing is the premium computing experience—especially for enthusiasts, gamers, content creators, engineers, programmers, etc. We're no longer carrying a computer to and from an office each day, so the value of a laptop is diminished. In fact, when my laptop died in April, I didn't replace it for several months because my home workstation is what I'm using every day and I wasn't traveling anywhere. I suppose enthusiasts don't really count for a big enough market to lift the numbers. Still I would have expected 2020 to be flat on desktop computers, not dramatically down.

tonyedgecombe 6y ago
I'm guessing that a big chunk of the desktop market was in corporates and they have been switching to laptops while people work from home. That was certainly the case in my wife's office.
- bhauer 6y ago
  That's a good point. And that must have been large enough to easily more than offset any increase in demand from the home desktop computing enthusiast. For my company, since we didn't want to use a bunch of money to buy new equipment during an economic squeeze, we let the programmers (essentially everyone) take their workstations home, and most did.
- kube-system 6y ago
  That has been the steady trend for a while. Desktops in offices have been slowly dwindling down to two categories: * Creatives who need more horsepower than a mobile workstation can provide * Hourly employees with minimal computing needs who won't use their computer outside of their cubical Anyone in the middle is better served by a laptop
volkl48 6y ago
I'll point out that this appears to be measuring sales from OEMs. I don't think it's capturing anything about people who build their own system, so whether or not that market has grown probably isn't reflected in this.

schnevets 6y ago

I think this one can be chalked up to COVID and the urgent shift to remote life. - Some lucky folks took home shiny new hardware from their employers to connect to the office - Some unlucky folks had to pay out-of-pocket because on their first day working from home they learned Teams doesn't run on a 13 year old Macbook - And yes, some folks splurged on new hardware for COVID-compliant fun (myself included), but newfound imperatives like having to work from home will more effectively drive sales than a shift in taste

kube-system 6y ago

Absolutely none of it. None of the categories that grew in demand are compatible with an RTX 3080.