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I'm not a trump fan by any means but obama was just another 8 years of bush. he didn't do much to end the wars, wall street got a raise especially those at the

I'm not a trump fan by any means but obama was just another 8 years of bush. he didn't do much to end the wars, wall street got a raise especially those at the very top, no one was held accountable for the financial crisis, he gave more and more jobs away to china, obamacare gave huge profits to the insurance industry (which is why you didn't see republicans repeal it even when controlling the senate and house), he leapt at the chance to help tech companies who didn't need it, he limited civil liberties, and so on. It's so frustrating to see liberals bend over backwards to defend him.

psychometry 6y ago
You're not wrong, but none of those things are why Trumpers hate him. It's racism, pure and simple.
- hnlurker 6y ago
  Given the significant and well documented population of people that voted blue in '12 and red in '16, your claims seem beyond extraordinary and into the land of fantasy. A wise man once said that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I'm sure it has nothing to do with President Obama leveraging the IRS to explicitly go after conservative groups. I'm sure it has nothing to do with Obama extrajudicially murdering an American citizen. I'm sure it has nothing to do with Obama wielding the espionage act to prosecute whistleblowers more than all previous presidents combined. Bonus points for him wiretapping dozens of AP reporters. Yet when Trump tweets a meme gif of him knocking down a pro-wrestler with CNN overlaid on the person's face, he's treated as if he's destroying the 1st amendment and calling to violence; yet Obama is putting actual intense pressure on newspapers for writing bad stories about his administration. I'm sure it has nothing to do with Obama's anti-semitism displayed in so many ways including paying Iran to continue building a nuclear weapon, legitimizing baby-wielding terrorists, or cutting the legs out from under Israeli led coalitions in the region. I'm sure it has nothing to do with Obama setting back race relations, found by polling data, to pre-Obama levels by propping up dirtbags like Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin. I'm sure there is some racism in there, but your claim that it is the pure and simple story is literally fantastical. NOTE: There's also racism the other way, demonstrated by the number of black voters who voted for Obama but wouldn't vote for H. Clinton. Or is that too dirty a secret to mention? I haven't run the numbers, but my bias is that the number of I'll-only-vote-for-the-black-guy, as a percentage of population, is roughly equal to the I'll-only-vote-for-the-white-guy, as a percentage of population.
  - the_only_law 6y ago
    > I'm sure it has nothing to do with Obama's anti-semitism displayed in so many ways including paying Iran to continue building a nuclear weapon LMAO this is such a comical line. Let me guess, criticizing zionism is also anti semetic?
monkeynotes 6y ago
I have come to the conclusion that presidents all follow the same playbook, more or less. Once they get into office it's house of cards, the advisors giving the same advice, same office machinations. I imagine there is a lot of resistance for wavering from the norm. Obama had election promises to get out of conflicts, close Guantanamo Bay, and so on. Campaign promises reneged and the continuance of Bush era executive power overriding the course of legislation. Compared to Trump Obama looks good, but in reality he wasn't really anything special apart from his eloquence and kind demeanor which I am sure Republicans dismissed as Democrats dismiss the qualities of Rep. Presidents. It's all just the same shit from different sides, it's kind of laughable really.
- thakoppno 6y ago
  Obama also promised to close Guantanamo immediately after his inauguration. He was still at the Capital. Seeing him fail to deliver on that promise changed my opinion of him completely.
omosubi 6y ago
why all the downvoters? I just listed a bunch of totally reasonable objections to his time in office. Are people that attached to political figures? I don't understand. I feel like hackernews is a good place to criticize all politicians, including those you like. I voted for him if you are curious lol

psychometry 6y ago

You're not wrong, but none of those things are why Trumpers hate him. It's racism, pure and simple.

hnlurker 6y ago
Given the significant and well documented population of people that voted blue in '12 and red in '16, your claims seem beyond extraordinary and into the land of fantasy. A wise man once said that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I'm sure it has nothing to do with President Obama leveraging the IRS to explicitly go after conservative groups. I'm sure it has nothing to do with Obama extrajudicially murdering an American citizen. I'm sure it has nothing to do with Obama wielding the espionage act to prosecute whistleblowers more than all previous presidents combined. Bonus points for him wiretapping dozens of AP reporters. Yet when Trump tweets a meme gif of him knocking down a pro-wrestler with CNN overlaid on the person's face, he's treated as if he's destroying the 1st amendment and calling to violence; yet Obama is putting actual intense pressure on newspapers for writing bad stories about his administration. I'm sure it has nothing to do with Obama's anti-semitism displayed in so many ways including paying Iran to continue building a nuclear weapon, legitimizing baby-wielding terrorists, or cutting the legs out from under Israeli led coalitions in the region. I'm sure it has nothing to do with Obama setting back race relations, found by polling data, to pre-Obama levels by propping up dirtbags like Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin. I'm sure there is some racism in there, but your claim that it is the pure and simple story is literally fantastical. NOTE: There's also racism the other way, demonstrated by the number of black voters who voted for Obama but wouldn't vote for H. Clinton. Or is that too dirty a secret to mention? I haven't run the numbers, but my bias is that the number of I'll-only-vote-for-the-black-guy, as a percentage of population, is roughly equal to the I'll-only-vote-for-the-white-guy, as a percentage of population.
- the_only_law 6y ago
  > I'm sure it has nothing to do with Obama's anti-semitism displayed in so many ways including paying Iran to continue building a nuclear weapon LMAO this is such a comical line. Let me guess, criticizing zionism is also anti semetic?

monkeynotes 6y ago

I have come to the conclusion that presidents all follow the same playbook, more or less. Once they get into office it's house of cards, the advisors giving the same advice, same office machinations. I imagine there is a lot of resistance for wavering from the norm. Obama had election promises to get out of conflicts, close Guantanamo Bay, and so on. Campaign promises reneged and the continuance of Bush era executive power overriding the course of legislation. Compared to Trump Obama looks good, but in reality he wasn't really anything special apart from his eloquence and kind demeanor which I am sure Republicans dismissed as Democrats dismiss the qualities of Rep. Presidents. It's all just the same shit from different sides, it's kind of laughable really.

thakoppno 6y ago
Obama also promised to close Guantanamo immediately after his inauguration. He was still at the Capital. Seeing him fail to deliver on that promise changed my opinion of him completely.

omosubi 6y ago

why all the downvoters? I just listed a bunch of totally reasonable objections to his time in office. Are people that attached to political figures? I don't understand. I feel like hackernews is a good place to criticize all politicians, including those you like. I voted for him if you are curious lol