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I think you’re misreading our situation. We run phone and computer repair shops as our primary business. Uber is his part-time side gig. We do pay into unemplo

I think you’re misreading our situation. We run phone and computer repair shops as our primary business. Uber is his part-time side gig. We do pay into unemployment, as we are both salaried workers of our own business. He did not take unemployment during Covid. Our stores were considered essential, so they stayed open. That is pretty much the point of part-time driving. You have a full-time job or business that pays the bills and you just want some extra cash. The extra cash from Uber enabled him to pay off his car quickly and continues to provide extra money for our family. It is not a full-time income, nor do we ever expect it to be. This is our situation, and I understand that others are different. However, you specifically asked about him, so I replied with our details.

momokoko 6y ago
Could you address the insurance and workers compensation issue? Does your husbands auto insurance have a maximum payout? Otherwise we as a society will end up picking up the unpaid medical bills over that amount. There are many others, but these two are the most egregious.
- renewiltord 6y ago
  Bro, I'm picking up the bill for your kids (or if you're childless then someone's kids) to go to school. So maybe stop with this nonsensical view of society where you have to cover all your costs. Obviously some of us net positive into the government. That's how society works.
  - momokoko 6y ago
    Because other people specifically do have to pay into workers compensation because we collectively decided everyone should. Her husband and Uber are gaming the system to avoid that responsibility.
    - mike00632 6y ago
      And it should be mentioned again that Uber drivers out of work are currently receiving benefits that Uber avoided paying into.
billjings 6y ago
I don't understand how part time employment requires him to be classified as a contractor, not an employee.
- xeromal 6y ago
  I'd say part of being a contractor is setting your own hours. If you determine when or where you do a thing for a company, it feels like contracting to me.
  - arrosenberg 6y ago
    Being a contractor means setting your own contracts. Choosing hours is part of that, but you can offer flexible hours to part-time employees to the extent your business permits, nothing saying you can't.
    - xeromal 6y ago
      Isn't every time you confirm a ride a contract?
      - arrosenberg 6y ago
        Yes, but not the way you are constructing it. The driver doesn't get to set the price, and there are downsides to declining the fare. Additionally there is no relationship established between the driver and the rider. The carriage contract is between Uber/Lyft and the rider. The platform is then hiring the driver to fulfill their end of the contract. The driver and rider have no ability to form future contracts, unless they break the terms of service and exchange information during the ride. The business models could be tweaked to accommodate proper contractor relationships, but then Uber wouldn't be able to achieve their goal, which is monopoly control over public transit.
        xeromal 6y ago
        Actually the driver does set the price. They get to set whatever multiplier they desire and can effectively set the price to whatever they believe is fair.

momokoko 6y ago

Could you address the insurance and workers compensation issue? Does your husbands auto insurance have a maximum payout? Otherwise we as a society will end up picking up the unpaid medical bills over that amount. There are many others, but these two are the most egregious.

renewiltord 6y ago
Bro, I'm picking up the bill for your kids (or if you're childless then someone's kids) to go to school. So maybe stop with this nonsensical view of society where you have to cover all your costs. Obviously some of us net positive into the government. That's how society works.
- momokoko 6y ago
  Because other people specifically do have to pay into workers compensation because we collectively decided everyone should. Her husband and Uber are gaming the system to avoid that responsibility.
  - mike00632 6y ago
    And it should be mentioned again that Uber drivers out of work are currently receiving benefits that Uber avoided paying into.

billjings 6y ago

I don't understand how part time employment requires him to be classified as a contractor, not an employee.

xeromal 6y ago
I'd say part of being a contractor is setting your own hours. If you determine when or where you do a thing for a company, it feels like contracting to me.
- arrosenberg 6y ago
  Being a contractor means setting your own contracts. Choosing hours is part of that, but you can offer flexible hours to part-time employees to the extent your business permits, nothing saying you can't.
  - xeromal 6y ago
    Isn't every time you confirm a ride a contract?
    - arrosenberg 6y ago
      Yes, but not the way you are constructing it. The driver doesn't get to set the price, and there are downsides to declining the fare. Additionally there is no relationship established between the driver and the rider. The carriage contract is between Uber/Lyft and the rider. The platform is then hiring the driver to fulfill their end of the contract. The driver and rider have no ability to form future contracts, unless they break the terms of service and exchange information during the ride. The business models could be tweaked to accommodate proper contractor relationships, but then Uber wouldn't be able to achieve their goal, which is monopoly control over public transit.
      - xeromal 6y ago
        Actually the driver does set the price. They get to set whatever multiplier they desire and can effectively set the price to whatever they believe is fair.