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> that's an incredibly 'old fashioned' statement to make If spending in cosmetics industry is any indicator, women definitely cares about how something looks o

> that's an incredibly 'old fashioned' statement to make If spending in cosmetics industry is any indicator, women definitely cares about how something looks over men. There are hard number even if you don't believe in the various evolution theories and biological differences which makes women more prone to noticing subtle visual and design cues. From 2010: https://appleinsider.com/articles/10/12/01/women_want_apples_iphone_men_prefer_google_android_nielsen_finds https://appleinsider.com/articles/10/12/01/women_want_apples... From 2013: https://www.statista.com/statistics/271204/android-vs-iphone-mobile-owners-gender/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/271204/android-vs-iphone... From 2015: https://www.statista.com/statistics/513995/smartphone-user-gender-distribution-by-os/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/513995/smartphone-user-g... I am not aware of any large scale recent surveys focused entirely on that but there are many dating surveys which reports women having preference for men with iPhones. Likely dubious at the numbers most of them report (70%?) and could be influenced by other factors but still it seems women do prefer iPhones more. I don't think this should be odd. iPhones have the best overall cameras every year and are huge on Instagram and Pinterest (platforms dominated by women) so I can only extrapolate the difference would be bigger now with social media booming.

JAlexoid 6y ago
If you wanted to compare purely biological imperatives, then you'd only take data from cultures that treat women and men wearing makeup equally. As such - men spend a lot on fashion and grooming, while the same can be said about women and cosmetics... but that's mostly about cultural customs. PS: Only the latest iPhone has best camera. They traded places with Pixel, Samsung, etc... over the last few years. PPS: Your stats are a little bit out of date... Let alone - the 2013 data contradicts your claim. Women are distributed between Android and iPhone equally in 2013. There would be a shift towards iPhone, if women wanted iPhone more.
- damnencryption 6y ago
  For cultural customs, I am not sure which country to take. For US and UK (which dominate the statistics on stuff like this due to language and other factors), women spend significantly more. > The 2013 data contradicts your claim. It doesn't. Men want iPhone less than women. My initial point was simply that people here and on reddit (men dominated sites) are not reflective of apple's focus. 31% of men wanted Android while only 24% of women wanted the same. > PS: Only the latest iPhone has best camera. They traded places with Pixel, Samsung, etc... over the last few years. This is misleading. While iPhones fared worse than pixel in photo department for 3 years, they make up to it in other aspects especially video. As for Samsung, it depends on what you consider better camera. iPhone arguably has the best color profile and accuracy while Samsung phones does beautification and increase contrast which does make them look nicer but overall, not accurate.
  - JAlexoid 6y ago
    > For cultural customs, I am not sure which country to take. For US and UK (which dominate the statistics on stuff like this due to language and other factors), women spend significantly more. You're trying to make a biological preference claim out of what is customary in the Western European cultures. Sometimes it's better to say that "we don't know", because that is exactly it. > This is misleading. No... Your original was misleading, I just forced you to correct yourself.
JimTheMan 6y ago
I will state it more plainly than 'old fashioned'. I find your assumptions about what Women want from their tech products offensive and from what I can gather, just based on you wanting to believe it really badly. In addition to that... I actually sold the damn things to actual human beings! I KNOW who is buying them! I've met them by the thousands! It's like approaching a mechanic about why Ford's don't break down by pointing vaguely at some tables. Your data doesn't particularly support your views either.
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JAlexoid 6y ago

If you wanted to compare purely biological imperatives, then you'd only take data from cultures that treat women and men wearing makeup equally. As such - men spend a lot on fashion and grooming, while the same can be said about women and cosmetics... but that's mostly about cultural customs. PS: Only the latest iPhone has best camera. They traded places with Pixel, Samsung, etc... over the last few years. PPS: Your stats are a little bit out of date... Let alone - the 2013 data contradicts your claim. Women are distributed between Android and iPhone equally in 2013. There would be a shift towards iPhone, if women wanted iPhone more.

damnencryption 6y ago
For cultural customs, I am not sure which country to take. For US and UK (which dominate the statistics on stuff like this due to language and other factors), women spend significantly more. > The 2013 data contradicts your claim. It doesn't. Men want iPhone less than women. My initial point was simply that people here and on reddit (men dominated sites) are not reflective of apple's focus. 31% of men wanted Android while only 24% of women wanted the same. > PS: Only the latest iPhone has best camera. They traded places with Pixel, Samsung, etc... over the last few years. This is misleading. While iPhones fared worse than pixel in photo department for 3 years, they make up to it in other aspects especially video. As for Samsung, it depends on what you consider better camera. iPhone arguably has the best color profile and accuracy while Samsung phones does beautification and increase contrast which does make them look nicer but overall, not accurate.
- JAlexoid 6y ago
  > For cultural customs, I am not sure which country to take. For US and UK (which dominate the statistics on stuff like this due to language and other factors), women spend significantly more. You're trying to make a biological preference claim out of what is customary in the Western European cultures. Sometimes it's better to say that "we don't know", because that is exactly it. > This is misleading. No... Your original was misleading, I just forced you to correct yourself.

JimTheMan 6y ago

I will state it more plainly than 'old fashioned'. I find your assumptions about what Women want from their tech products offensive and from what I can gather, just based on you wanting to believe it really badly. In addition to that... I actually sold the damn things to actual human beings! I KNOW who is buying them! I've met them by the thousands! It's like approaching a mechanic about why Ford's don't break down by pointing vaguely at some tables. Your data doesn't particularly support your views either.

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