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How about efficient? A Mac Mini is extremely efficient.

by alphabettsy 6y ago

lostmsu 6y ago
That whole thing is temporary until 2021 when other companies will get a chance to use 5nm fabs.
- samatman 6y ago
  Don't count on it. Apple's mobile chips have been consistently the best in the business. When the A14 was released, the second fastest mobile chip you can buy became... the A13. Is this unsurmountable? Obviously not, it's excellent engineering, not a pact with the Devil. But you can't just hand-wave it away either, Apple's silicon is the one to beat, and they have a head start.
  - wayneftw 6y ago
    You can only run Apple’s awful software platforms on Apple Silicon so they’re only competing with themselves and for the few people who actually run macOS in the case of the new Macbooks. Even if the rest of the PC industry never goes to ARM, Apple’s market share won’t change more than one measly percent IMO.
  - lostmsu 6y ago
    Yes, but here we are essentially talking laptop chips, not phone chips.
- sooheon 6y ago
  All things are temporary. If Apple is consistently ahead in efficiency at any given point in time that's what it means to be ahead.
unnouinceput 6y ago
I am most efficient at my desktop. The sheer screen estate allows me to organize my work better than on any laptop, Apple or not. I have 2 laptops, bought them to my kids for this times when online school is a must. I tried to do some work, didn't like the small screen.
- lorenzhs 6y ago
  The Mac Mini is a desktop computer, it's just much smaller than your typical desktop tower. It doesn't have a screen or keyboard built-in. It's not a laptop. It's a box you connect your screen to. How is this relevant?
  - wayneftw 6y ago
    The Mac mini contains a laptop-grade CPU, RAM and mainboard that lacks expansion. The only thing that makes it not a laptop is the form-factor.
    - lorenzhs 6y ago
      The comment I was responding to was talking about screen size and only screen size. Your points may all be true (except that it has much more space for cooling than a laptop, which has significant effects on noise and sustained performance) but have no relation to the topic at hand.
- rorykoehler 6y ago
  Mac mini is a desktop computer. Regardless we're talking about energy efficiency not productivity.
- latexr 6y ago
  > I am most efficient at my desktop. It would be weird if the person you’re responding to were referring to personal efficiency—that depends on the person. They were likely referring to power efficiency.

How about efficient? A Mac Mini is extremely efficient.

lostmsu 6y ago

That whole thing is temporary until 2021 when other companies will get a chance to use 5nm fabs.

samatman 6y ago
Don't count on it. Apple's mobile chips have been consistently the best in the business. When the A14 was released, the second fastest mobile chip you can buy became... the A13. Is this unsurmountable? Obviously not, it's excellent engineering, not a pact with the Devil. But you can't just hand-wave it away either, Apple's silicon is the one to beat, and they have a head start.
- wayneftw 6y ago
  You can only run Apple’s awful software platforms on Apple Silicon so they’re only competing with themselves and for the few people who actually run macOS in the case of the new Macbooks. Even if the rest of the PC industry never goes to ARM, Apple’s market share won’t change more than one measly percent IMO.
- lostmsu 6y ago
  Yes, but here we are essentially talking laptop chips, not phone chips.
sooheon 6y ago
All things are temporary. If Apple is consistently ahead in efficiency at any given point in time that's what it means to be ahead.

unnouinceput 6y ago

I am most efficient at my desktop. The sheer screen estate allows me to organize my work better than on any laptop, Apple or not. I have 2 laptops, bought them to my kids for this times when online school is a must. I tried to do some work, didn't like the small screen.

lorenzhs 6y ago
The Mac Mini is a desktop computer, it's just much smaller than your typical desktop tower. It doesn't have a screen or keyboard built-in. It's not a laptop. It's a box you connect your screen to. How is this relevant?
- wayneftw 6y ago
  The Mac mini contains a laptop-grade CPU, RAM and mainboard that lacks expansion. The only thing that makes it not a laptop is the form-factor.
  - lorenzhs 6y ago
    The comment I was responding to was talking about screen size and only screen size. Your points may all be true (except that it has much more space for cooling than a laptop, which has significant effects on noise and sustained performance) but have no relation to the topic at hand.
rorykoehler 6y ago
Mac mini is a desktop computer. Regardless we're talking about energy efficiency not productivity.
latexr 6y ago
> I am most efficient at my desktop. It would be weird if the person you’re responding to were referring to personal efficiency—that depends on the person. They were likely referring to power efficiency.