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This doesn't apply to Ubuntu,right? As in Canonical isn't doing something like this, right??

Shared404 6y ago
Ubuntu hasn't done anything nearly this bad, although the amazon fiasco was pretty rough. I would still recommend getting comfortable enough with at least one or two other distro's that you can jump ship to if necessary.
novok 6y ago
With how canonical is behaving with things like snap and such, I wouldn't be surprised if you find similar things. They just don't have the power of their own superior hardware platform to leverage it further.
sneak 6y ago
Ubuntu doesn't run on the fastest/most efficient laptops that were announced this week.
- fabianhjr 6y ago
  There is an Ubuntu ARMv8-A release (Commonly called AArch64) and there are many Linux-based distros running on AArch64 hardware. Probably wont use any extras on the Apple M1 SoC but it would run nonetheless.
  - sneak 6y ago
    I guess we'll see when my M1 air arrives this month. It's my understanding that by default they won't boot anything not signed by Apple, but I'm hearing scattered reports that there may be some command line configuration tool options that can cause it to disable boot security and boot unsigned stuff. It's certainly the default configuration, and on all of their other arm64 platforms they've shipped so far (iPhone/iPad/ATV/Watch), disabling the boot security is not a configurable option. My fingers are crossed. We'll know soon. EDIT: https://keith.github.io/xcode-man-pages/bputil.1.html https://keith.github.io/xcode-man-pages/bputil.1.html
- sliken 6y ago
  Sure, but it does run on RISC-v, other 64-bit arms, AMD x86-64, Intel x86-64, IBM power, etc. Sure apple's got the lead, but they are also showing the entire ARM community how good an ARM can be. Also keep in mind Apple's M1 looks pretty awesome against Intel, even the i9. Not so much against the AMD Zen3. One of their biggest bragging points was single thread performance, which Zen 3 is rather close on. It's just the nature of things, don't worry, healthy competition for the M1 is already in the pipeline.
inshadows 6y ago
It applies precisely to Ubuntu as well: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/disabling-automatic-refresh-for-snap-from-store/707/1 https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/disabling-automatic-refresh-for... In a world where Snap is ubiquitous, Canonical is in charge of software running on your devices, not you.
- grey_earthling 6y ago
  That world is Ubuntu. AFAIK, no other (major?) Linux distro uses Snap. When you choose a distro, you choose that distro's install-and-update policy. If you prefer a different policy, choose a different distro. I understand Linux Mint and Pop!_OS are like Ubuntu but without Snap, so they may be what you want. Personally I use Silverblue.
- sliken 6y ago
  Sure, at least for now it's easy to disable snap. Unlike apple ubuntu can't force you to run things. Apple's got a locked down bootloader that checks the signatures of what is run, so they have in a very real sense control of the hardware, which Ubuntu lacks.

Ubuntu hasn't done anything nearly this bad, although the amazon fiasco was pretty rough. I would still recommend getting comfortable enough with at least one or two other distro's that you can jump ship to if necessary.

novok 6y ago

With how canonical is behaving with things like snap and such, I wouldn't be surprised if you find similar things. They just don't have the power of their own superior hardware platform to leverage it further.

sneak 6y ago

Ubuntu doesn't run on the fastest/most efficient laptops that were announced this week.

fabianhjr 6y ago
There is an Ubuntu ARMv8-A release (Commonly called AArch64) and there are many Linux-based distros running on AArch64 hardware. Probably wont use any extras on the Apple M1 SoC but it would run nonetheless.
- sneak 6y ago
  I guess we'll see when my M1 air arrives this month. It's my understanding that by default they won't boot anything not signed by Apple, but I'm hearing scattered reports that there may be some command line configuration tool options that can cause it to disable boot security and boot unsigned stuff. It's certainly the default configuration, and on all of their other arm64 platforms they've shipped so far (iPhone/iPad/ATV/Watch), disabling the boot security is not a configurable option. My fingers are crossed. We'll know soon. EDIT: https://keith.github.io/xcode-man-pages/bputil.1.html https://keith.github.io/xcode-man-pages/bputil.1.html
sliken 6y ago
Sure, but it does run on RISC-v, other 64-bit arms, AMD x86-64, Intel x86-64, IBM power, etc. Sure apple's got the lead, but they are also showing the entire ARM community how good an ARM can be. Also keep in mind Apple's M1 looks pretty awesome against Intel, even the i9. Not so much against the AMD Zen3. One of their biggest bragging points was single thread performance, which Zen 3 is rather close on. It's just the nature of things, don't worry, healthy competition for the M1 is already in the pipeline.

inshadows 6y ago

It applies precisely to Ubuntu as well: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/disabling-automatic-refresh-for-snap-from-store/707/1 https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/disabling-automatic-refresh-for... In a world where Snap is ubiquitous, Canonical is in charge of software running on your devices, not you.

grey_earthling 6y ago
That world is Ubuntu. AFAIK, no other (major?) Linux distro uses Snap. When you choose a distro, you choose that distro's install-and-update policy. If you prefer a different policy, choose a different distro. I understand Linux Mint and Pop!_OS are like Ubuntu but without Snap, so they may be what you want. Personally I use Silverblue.
sliken 6y ago
Sure, at least for now it's easy to disable snap. Unlike apple ubuntu can't force you to run things. Apple's got a locked down bootloader that checks the signatures of what is run, so they have in a very real sense control of the hardware, which Ubuntu lacks.