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It has been all over the news in the US of trump claiming voter fraud. Apnews fact check has been full of the debunked claims in the last few days. https://apn

• Jayschwa 6y ago
  Edit: I have removed the link because someone else found errors in it. Original: AP claims there's no evidence of "dead voters", but this list seems to indicate otherwise: [redacted] It's obituaries matched with returned absentee ballots. I've inspected a dozen or so entries and it seems legit.
  • TimTheTinker 6y ago
    Very interesting, thanks for that. I’m curious where you got a link to that. Looks like it’s from an account that was registered only yesterday... so there’s really no evidence (at least on the repo itself) that it’s “crowdsourced”.
  • MacsHeadroom 6y ago
    I'm not who you replied to. But I saw this get crowdsourced live on Twitter a few days ago. IIRC the original list was a pastebin with ~8000 identities and this list was the final result after testing each identity individually on a state of Michigan website.
  • timmaxw 6y ago
    These aren't dead voters, they're living voters who happen to have the same name and birth month/year as a dead person. As evidence: I spot-checked three random entries. In all three cases, I could find a Whitepages.com entry for a person with the same first & last name, in or near the zip code where the ballot was for; but the obituary was for a different city. Entry 962: The voter is registered in zip code 48602 (Saginaw, MI). Whitepages.com lists a resident of Saginaw, MI with the same name and age as the voter. But the obituary is for someone who lived in Eastpoint, MI, which is 100 miles away. Howmanyofme.com estimates there are 6,000 people in the United States with this same name. Entry 302: The voter is registered in zip code 48076 (Lanthrup Village, MI). Whitepages.com lists a resident of Southfield, MI (which is a city surrounding Lanthrup Village, MI) with the same name and age as the voter. But the obituary is for someone who lived in Detroit, MI, which is 17 miles away. Howmanyofme.com estimates there are 1,600 peple in the United States with this same name. Entry 707: The voter is registered in zip code 48162 (Monroe County, MI). Whitepages.com lists a resident of Carleton, MI (a city in Monroe County, MI) with the same name and age as the voter. But the obituary is for someone who lived in Novi, MI, which is 48 miles away. Whitepages.com also lists at least three other individuals in various parts of Michigan with the same name and age range. I've filed this as an issue on the Github repo: https://github.com/votesunshine/votesunshine.github.io/issues/1 https://github.com/votesunshine/votesunshine.github.io/issue... It's very irresponsible for you to be spreading these rumors. You should make it right by spreading the truth instead: go back to wherever you found out about this page, and let them know that it's actually just a case of different people with the same name.
    • Jayschwa 6y ago
      Thank you for pointing out errors in this data. Out of an abundance of caution, I have removed the link from my original post.
• motohagiography 6y ago
  The mainstream news I listen to (radio stations while driving) just says there is bellyaching from the campaign, but it is so dismissive of anything the whitehouse says that the question of election integrity does not seem to have registered with them. That's why I was surprised CISA had to say anything. If you are interested in the issues, of course there is no limit to the depth of the rabbit hole you can run down, but the media position here has been its usual expression of disgust for anything outside its perceived status quo. Mainstream news is like listening to teenagers reading out texts from their dad with eyerolls.