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Are you seriously trying to make the argument that it's ok to threaten to decapitate someone as long as you do it in the good old fashioned European way, rather

Are you seriously trying to make the argument that it's ok to threaten to decapitate someone as long as you do it in the good old fashioned European way, rather than like ISIS?

aaron695 6y ago
No
- Jordrok 6y ago
  If that's the case, then I'm honestly curious what point you were trying to make, because I see no other way to interpret it. How is saying "put the heads on pikes" substantially different than "should be beheaded"? Are you suggesting that there's some way to "put them at the two corners of the White House" without any beheading? Is this really an example of the "fake news" you love to demonize, or are you just arguing in bad faith because the truth makes you look bad?
  - aaron695 6y ago
    > or are you just arguing in bad faith because the truth makes you look bad? It's cute trolling when you are 17, not so much as an adult. It's up to you where you are in your life. Clearly people say things like a "head on a pike" or "rape and pillage" in regular speech. "Head on a pike" is a well know idiom. They are clearly different to saying "I want to behead someone", "I want to rape someone" They changed the quote from a well know idiom. There was no need to change the quote. My point was clear.
    - Jordrok 6y ago
      Look, you obtuse jackass, since you seem to be so concerned with the actual words that were said, let's put them right out here and break them down. > Bannon: "Second term kicks off with firing Wray, firing Fauci. Now I actually want to go a step farther, but I realize the president is a kind-hearted man and a good man. I’d actually like to go back to the old times of Tudor England, I’d put the heads on pikes, right, I’d put them at the two corners of the White House as a warning to federal bureaucrats. You either get with the program or you’re gone – time to stop playing games. Blow it all up, put Ric Grenell today as the interim head of the FBI, that’ll light them up, right." > Maxey: "You know what, Steve, just yesterday there was the anniversary of the hanging of two Tories in Philadelphia, these were Quaker businessmen who had cohabitated, if you will, with the British while they were occupying Philadelphia. These people were hung. This is what we used to do to traitors." > Bannon: "That’s how you won the revolution. No one wants to talk about it. The [American] revolution wasn’t some sort of garden party, right? It was a civil war. It was a civil war." This is clearly WAY beyond offhandedly using the phrase "heads on pikes" as a colloquialism, and veers into discussing the necessity and morality of executing political opponents. Point 1: Firing isn't good enough. They are traitors and need to be punished with death. Point 2: Clear evidence of their execution needs to be on display to intimidate everyone else into falling in line. Point 3: These executions are justified when carried out on people who are seen as traitors in the midst of a war. So when you come in here trying to whitewash everything as if the big bad fake news media put words into Bannon's mouth, well, you can fuck right off. --- [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/05/steve-bannon-makes-beheading-comment-about-fauci-on-war-room-podcast-.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/05/steve-bannon-makes-beheading... [2] https://twitter.com/FrankFigliuzzi1/status/1324485819042705408 https://twitter.com/FrankFigliuzzi1/status/13244858190427054...

Are you seriously trying to make the argument that it's ok to threaten to decapitate someone as long as you do it in the good old fashioned European way, rather than like ISIS?

aaron695 6y ago

Jordrok 6y ago
If that's the case, then I'm honestly curious what point you were trying to make, because I see no other way to interpret it. How is saying "put the heads on pikes" substantially different than "should be beheaded"? Are you suggesting that there's some way to "put them at the two corners of the White House" without any beheading? Is this really an example of the "fake news" you love to demonize, or are you just arguing in bad faith because the truth makes you look bad?
- aaron695 6y ago
  > or are you just arguing in bad faith because the truth makes you look bad? It's cute trolling when you are 17, not so much as an adult. It's up to you where you are in your life. Clearly people say things like a "head on a pike" or "rape and pillage" in regular speech. "Head on a pike" is a well know idiom. They are clearly different to saying "I want to behead someone", "I want to rape someone" They changed the quote from a well know idiom. There was no need to change the quote. My point was clear.
  - Jordrok 6y ago
    Look, you obtuse jackass, since you seem to be so concerned with the actual words that were said, let's put them right out here and break them down. > Bannon: "Second term kicks off with firing Wray, firing Fauci. Now I actually want to go a step farther, but I realize the president is a kind-hearted man and a good man. I’d actually like to go back to the old times of Tudor England, I’d put the heads on pikes, right, I’d put them at the two corners of the White House as a warning to federal bureaucrats. You either get with the program or you’re gone – time to stop playing games. Blow it all up, put Ric Grenell today as the interim head of the FBI, that’ll light them up, right." > Maxey: "You know what, Steve, just yesterday there was the anniversary of the hanging of two Tories in Philadelphia, these were Quaker businessmen who had cohabitated, if you will, with the British while they were occupying Philadelphia. These people were hung. This is what we used to do to traitors." > Bannon: "That’s how you won the revolution. No one wants to talk about it. The [American] revolution wasn’t some sort of garden party, right? It was a civil war. It was a civil war." This is clearly WAY beyond offhandedly using the phrase "heads on pikes" as a colloquialism, and veers into discussing the necessity and morality of executing political opponents. Point 1: Firing isn't good enough. They are traitors and need to be punished with death. Point 2: Clear evidence of their execution needs to be on display to intimidate everyone else into falling in line. Point 3: These executions are justified when carried out on people who are seen as traitors in the midst of a war. So when you come in here trying to whitewash everything as if the big bad fake news media put words into Bannon's mouth, well, you can fuck right off. --- [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/05/steve-bannon-makes-beheading-comment-about-fauci-on-war-room-podcast-.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/05/steve-bannon-makes-beheading... [2] https://twitter.com/FrankFigliuzzi1/status/1324485819042705408 https://twitter.com/FrankFigliuzzi1/status/13244858190427054...