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I agree--I also de-googled within the last couple years. I also did it because I need my e-mail to always work, it's just unacceptable that Google could take it

by yakz 6y ago

I agree--I also de-googled within the last couple years. I also did it because I need my e-mail to always work, it's just unacceptable that Google could take it away with no reasonable recourse. I was also hit by this outage today, at work, on my work laptop, while I was working. Apple literally cost me time and my employer money today, because their lack of foresight or inadequate provisioning of servers or whatever the fuck it was, fucked up my laptop. No good reason. They just fucked up, and it cost something.

tomjen3 6y ago
What did you move your phone to, when you degoogled your life? Apple iphones seems even worse than Android, honestly.
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- jmnicolas 6y ago
  I use GrapheneOS. It's rough, but as I said somewhere else, for the first time my phone isn't my enemy. I would have bought a Linux phone, but seeing that a few months ago they had trouble making calls on a Librem 5, I chose not to take the risk.
  - pgt 6y ago
    Thanks, I will look into GrapheneOS. I wish there was a phone ecosystem I could invest in that ran Clojure near the metal. Some kind of Lisp machine would be awesome and make it more palatable to endure missing libraries and apps.
    - fsflover 6y ago
      Have a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Librem_5 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Librem_5 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PinePhone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PinePhone.
    - jmnicolas 6y ago
      In case you don't know, GrapheneOS is based on the open sources parts of Android (AOSP) so the apps are developed on Android's JVM (Dalvik?). Maybe it's possible to code with Clojure. Actually it looks like it's possible : https://github.com/clojure-android https://github.com/clojure-android Myself I'm learning Flutter to be able to develop my own apps when I can't find what I need on FDroid.
pgt 6y ago
I switched to Fastmail two weeks ago. So far it’s great. $5/month is reasonable insurance against “getting cancelled” by Google.

by yakz 6y ago

tomjen3 6y ago

What did you move your phone to, when you degoogled your life? Apple iphones seems even worse than Android, honestly.

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jmnicolas 6y ago
I use GrapheneOS. It's rough, but as I said somewhere else, for the first time my phone isn't my enemy. I would have bought a Linux phone, but seeing that a few months ago they had trouble making calls on a Librem 5, I chose not to take the risk.
- pgt 6y ago
  Thanks, I will look into GrapheneOS. I wish there was a phone ecosystem I could invest in that ran Clojure near the metal. Some kind of Lisp machine would be awesome and make it more palatable to endure missing libraries and apps.
  - fsflover 6y ago
    Have a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Librem_5 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Librem_5 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PinePhone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PinePhone.
  - jmnicolas 6y ago
    In case you don't know, GrapheneOS is based on the open sources parts of Android (AOSP) so the apps are developed on Android's JVM (Dalvik?). Maybe it's possible to code with Clojure. Actually it looks like it's possible : https://github.com/clojure-android https://github.com/clojure-android Myself I'm learning Flutter to be able to develop my own apps when I can't find what I need on FDroid.

pgt 6y ago

I switched to Fastmail two weeks ago. So far it’s great. $5/month is reasonable insurance against “getting cancelled” by Google.