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As an Apple user of 10 years: I had no idea macos phones home like this.
by Swizec 6y ago
As an Apple user of 10 years: I had no idea macos phones home like this.
- amznthrwaway 6y agoIt's a certificate check. I knew and didn't care. If you care, you're going to be real upset when you look at your other alternatives. That said, I don't think many people here actually care. I firmly believe that most of the people on this site just like to shit on Apple, because they prefer that to trust their privacy to an Advertising company.
- tshaddox 6y agoThat's one potential issue, if you have privacy concerns. But the real problem here is that there's a blatant bug in the phone-home code that causes apps to crash if Apple's servers have a problem.
- floatingatoll 6y ago“Bug” is an unverified assumption. For all we know this could be a designed outcome.
- wtetzner 6y agoThen it's a bug in the design.
- floatingatoll 6y agoI would accept "flaw", "incorrect choice", or "mistake". But if they considered it, and chose this path, knowing full well this would happen, that's not a bug.
- akoncius 6y agosimply doing “if server does not respond, don’t check anything” would be bigger flaw in design because that would mean just modify hosts file to localhost or something and the security check would be worked around.
- Swizec 6y agoThis is how you could make Photoshop free back in the day. Add their stuff to /etc/hosts and voila
- notnap 6y agoModern Adobe cracks are note that different in nature
- tshaddox 6y agoBut Macs already work fine with no internet connection, and apparently modifying the hosts file does resolve this problem.
- theonemind 6y agoDoesn't this bigger design flaw you describe apparently exist? I (and many others) did exactly that to get our machines responsive again, ocsp.apple.com 127.0.0.1 in the hosts file. I don't understand what you mean.
- hungryforcodes 6y agoNo, I don’t think you should just dismiss the privacy issue. It seems every time I launch an app, MacOS tells Apple. That’s also a REAL problem — and I guess I won’t be buying a Mac again unless the feature can be turned off.
- lukeholder 6y agoNot every time, just the first time an untrusted app wants to run. And there is no information in it but a hash.
- hackerfromthefu 6y agoApple has the db of apps matching the hash. What you said is like saying nothing except a social security number is used to identify you, as if that wasn't linked to the rest of the info about you.
- jb1991 6y agoNot in this case. This particular thread is about any app that was not an Apple app having problems launching, regardless of how many times have been launched before. It has revealed that actually every opening of any application phones home.
- tshaddox 6y agoI’m not dismissing it, just pointing out that it’s completely ancillary to a bug that causes programs to crash.
- hungryforcodes 6y agoI like this piece to summarize situation: https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours/ https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours/