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I really wish people would finally stop posting the "Mouse Utopia" experiments in conjunction with any context that involves human society. Not only do the exp
by qayxc 6y ago
I really wish people would finally stop posting the "Mouse Utopia" experiments in conjunction with any context that involves human society.
Not only do the experiments tell very little about mice and their behaviour (other than that non-species-appropriate husbandry conditions will lead to degeneration and death), they are in no way shape or form transferable to humans.
You can skip the whole flawed mouse experiment and just look at any industrial meat, egg or pelt production or even many zoos - same difference. The animals suffer, display behavioural disorders and often won't procreate.
Just ask any zoo how difficult it is to get certain animals to breed in captivity - with some it's even thought to be impossible (cheetahs are a prominent example).
So please, for love of Zeus stop with the "Mouse Utopia" already!
- sbierwagen 6y agoThere is also something of a question if Universe 25 actually collapsed, or what happened in the previous 24 universes. Calhoun never published anything besides popsci summaries of his experiments: https://www.gwern.net/Questions#mouse-utopia https://www.gwern.net/Questions#mouse-utopia