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DDG isn't just a rebrand of Bing (and wouldn't be even if they did all searches via Bing); they don't pass personal information along to Bing that would allow M

by not2b 6y ago

DDG isn't just a rebrand of Bing (and wouldn't be even if they did all searches via Bing); they don't pass personal information along to Bing that would allow Microsoft to track the user.

Dahoon 6y ago
So just like Qwant except no ties to the US.
- 1996 6y ago
  For now, the french Qwant has as litle ties to the US as the swiss Crypto AG had a few years ago. But since that country is part of 9-eyes IIRC, I wouldn't place a lot of faith on that
1996 6y ago
Do you really think that makes any serious difference if the sites you're visiting serves google ad or uses google analytics? You think you are doing something, but I have strong reservations it achieves anything except making you feel better and more in control.
- gnufx 6y ago
  > Do you really think that makes any serious difference if the sites you're visiting serves google ad or uses google analytics? Yes, if you block those. You're also not in a search bubble.
abc-xyz 6y ago
We don’t know that. I mean all they have to show for it is a privacy policy and a few articles saying “we value privacy”. If they truly cared about privacy then why wouldn’t they be open source? I feel DDG can be compared to Apple in many ways, but here’s it’s important to look at what Apple is doing to its Chinese users by letting the CCP spy on all their iCloud data (sacrifice all the privacy values to obtain access to China’s market). Perhaps DuckDuckGo have also been forced to sacrifice their users’ privacy to join Microsoft Advertising as well? It’s difficult to tell since they’re closed source, and Microsoft Advertising is a private ad network (anyone besides DDG/Ecosia that’s been invited?) that doesn’t make any API documentation publicly available. At least with Bing’s API we can tell that Microsoft just need the search query for it to work, but how about their Microsoft’s advertising API?

by not2b 6y ago

DDG isn't just a rebrand of Bing (and wouldn't be even if they did all searches via Bing); they don't pass personal information along to Bing that would allow Microsoft to track the user.

Dahoon 6y ago

So just like Qwant except no ties to the US.

1996 6y ago
For now, the french Qwant has as litle ties to the US as the swiss Crypto AG had a few years ago. But since that country is part of 9-eyes IIRC, I wouldn't place a lot of faith on that

1996 6y ago

Do you really think that makes any serious difference if the sites you're visiting serves google ad or uses google analytics? You think you are doing something, but I have strong reservations it achieves anything except making you feel better and more in control.

gnufx 6y ago
> Do you really think that makes any serious difference if the sites you're visiting serves google ad or uses google analytics? Yes, if you block those. You're also not in a search bubble.

abc-xyz 6y ago

We don’t know that. I mean all they have to show for it is a privacy policy and a few articles saying “we value privacy”. If they truly cared about privacy then why wouldn’t they be open source? I feel DDG can be compared to Apple in many ways, but here’s it’s important to look at what Apple is doing to its Chinese users by letting the CCP spy on all their iCloud data (sacrifice all the privacy values to obtain access to China’s market). Perhaps DuckDuckGo have also been forced to sacrifice their users’ privacy to join Microsoft Advertising as well? It’s difficult to tell since they’re closed source, and Microsoft Advertising is a private ad network (anyone besides DDG/Ecosia that’s been invited?) that doesn’t make any API documentation publicly available. At least with Bing’s API we can tell that Microsoft just need the search query for it to work, but how about their Microsoft’s advertising API?