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That's correct. AFAIK Catalina will check online for everything, even binaries you compile yourself.

by augustl 6y ago

Aperocky 6y ago
wait what, how?
- szhu 6y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23281564 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23281564
  - jrochkind1 6y ago
    The behavior documented there is on FIRST run of a new executable. You can like that behavior or find it unacceptable, but the issue in OP is not that, it was applying to executables that had already been launched plenty of times on the machine.
    - SolarUpNote 6y ago
      [deleted]
      - jrochkind1 6y ago
        Right. The recent problem (in top-level OP, and that you were presumably experiencing) was not just first run, but the behavior explained at the GP link (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23281564 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23281564 , HN thread for https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/catalina-executables.html https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/catalina-executables.htm...) is just about first-run, so the behavior explained at the GP link is not sufficient explanation for the recent problem, it's not talking about the same thing.
robocat 6y ago
Microsoft Windows also uploads your private exe’s, and then runs them on Microsoft servers: https://medium.com/sensorfu/how-my-application-ran-away-and-called-home-from-redmond-de7af081100d https://medium.com/sensorfu/how-my-application-ran-away-and-...
- p410n3 6y ago
  Holy Shit. That should be illegal. All it needs is one rogue employee to potentially steal trade secrets? And dont tell me MS employees never go rogue after the recent events...
  - iso1631 6y ago
    Surely it's against copyright law
    - isakkeyten 6y ago
      A law is only dealing with the consequences, it's not prevention.
    - nordsieck 6y ago
      > Surely it's against copyright law It almost certainly is, but 1. You have to know it's happening before you can do anything about it 2. If your "work" isn't registered with the copyright office, you're limited to actual damages, which are probably close to $0
- phendrenad2 6y ago
  TL;DR: It's an option that can be disabled, unlike on Mac. Also doesn't lock up your PC if Apple's network is having a bad day.
- mensetmanusman 6y ago
  Is this how we look for the next Stuxnet?

That's correct. AFAIK Catalina will check online for everything, even binaries you compile yourself.

Aperocky 6y ago

wait what, how?

szhu 6y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23281564 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23281564
- jrochkind1 6y ago
  The behavior documented there is on FIRST run of a new executable. You can like that behavior or find it unacceptable, but the issue in OP is not that, it was applying to executables that had already been launched plenty of times on the machine.
  - SolarUpNote 6y ago
    [deleted]
    - jrochkind1 6y ago
      Right. The recent problem (in top-level OP, and that you were presumably experiencing) was not just first run, but the behavior explained at the GP link (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23281564 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23281564 , HN thread for https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/catalina-executables.html https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/catalina-executables.htm...) is just about first-run, so the behavior explained at the GP link is not sufficient explanation for the recent problem, it's not talking about the same thing.

robocat 6y ago

Microsoft Windows also uploads your private exe’s, and then runs them on Microsoft servers: https://medium.com/sensorfu/how-my-application-ran-away-and-called-home-from-redmond-de7af081100d https://medium.com/sensorfu/how-my-application-ran-away-and-...

p410n3 6y ago
Holy Shit. That should be illegal. All it needs is one rogue employee to potentially steal trade secrets? And dont tell me MS employees never go rogue after the recent events...
- iso1631 6y ago
  Surely it's against copyright law
  - isakkeyten 6y ago
    A law is only dealing with the consequences, it's not prevention.
  - nordsieck 6y ago
    > Surely it's against copyright law It almost certainly is, but 1. You have to know it's happening before you can do anything about it 2. If your "work" isn't registered with the copyright office, you're limited to actual damages, which are probably close to $0
phendrenad2 6y ago
TL;DR: It's an option that can be disabled, unlike on Mac. Also doesn't lock up your PC if Apple's network is having a bad day.
mensetmanusman 6y ago
Is this how we look for the next Stuxnet?