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Turn off your internet, open the app, turn it back on.

by FanaHOVA 6y ago

nixpulvis 6y ago
I'm laughing so hard at this right now. And people somehow still love their macs...
- dwaltrip 6y ago
  Because Windows is so much better?
  - loeg 6y ago
    It doesn't have this particular failure mode, at least.
    - valuearb 6y ago
      Both Linux and Windows perform similar checks.
      - loeg 6y ago
        I'm sure Linux (the kernel) does not. I don't know of any Linux distro that does, but, I'd be curious if you can point to specifics. If you could point to any documentation of Windows performing app-start OCSP checks, I'd love to learn more (and recant my earlier statement).
      - vcxy 6y ago
        I assure you my Linux machines do not.
      - Rebelgecko 6y ago
        That's a rather extraordinary claim. It's really setting off my BS meter- Can you show us where the code is to do that in the Linux kernel?
      - renewiltord 6y ago
        Do you know of a Wireshark filter that will reveal this on Ubuntu? What you're saying doesn't sound credible, but to incentivize, here's the bet: If you can provide a Wireshark filter that will show a certificate check on a vanilla Ubuntu 20.04 system when the following commands are executed in a bash shell, then I will donate $25 to a charity of your choice. Commands follow: cat <<HEREDOC >/tmp/file.c #include <stdio.h> int main() { printf("Hello World"); return 0; } HEREDOC gcc /tmp/file.c -o /tmp/app /tmp/app
      - heavyset_go 6y ago
        No, Linux does not. Linux does provide application-level and per-application security, as well as sandboxes, but they exist to help the user and the user has complete control over them and their system.
      - stevenhuang 6y ago
        The comment you are replying to states other OS' do not have this failure mode so your response is quite the non-sequitur, nevermind of questionable veracity (linux).
  - KingMachiavelli 6y ago
    Linux? At least then it's your fault when it breaks.
  - alpaca128 6y ago
    Users should not put up with this kind of thing, no matter what OS. Forced updates, online startup checks...all unacceptable in my opinion. Imagine no car or train in the region starting because of a server outage. People would riot on the streets. But for some reason in the IT world this kind of crap is marketed as a feature.
    - dwaltrip 6y ago
      I agree! I would love that. However... Where can I buy a computer free of all of those issues?
- jamil7 6y ago
  Yeah because we’ve never seen windows or linux users have to perform crazy workarounds right.
mamcx 6y ago
This was my intuition! I was in the middle of a call to fix a problem with a customer, I need to near-panic telling them MY computer was frozen. Thanks Apple!

Turn off your internet, open the app, turn it back on.

nixpulvis 6y ago

I'm laughing so hard at this right now. And people somehow still love their macs...

dwaltrip 6y ago
Because Windows is so much better?
- loeg 6y ago
  It doesn't have this particular failure mode, at least.
  - valuearb 6y ago
    Both Linux and Windows perform similar checks.
    - loeg 6y ago
      I'm sure Linux (the kernel) does not. I don't know of any Linux distro that does, but, I'd be curious if you can point to specifics. If you could point to any documentation of Windows performing app-start OCSP checks, I'd love to learn more (and recant my earlier statement).
    - vcxy 6y ago
      I assure you my Linux machines do not.
    - Rebelgecko 6y ago
      That's a rather extraordinary claim. It's really setting off my BS meter- Can you show us where the code is to do that in the Linux kernel?
    - renewiltord 6y ago
      Do you know of a Wireshark filter that will reveal this on Ubuntu? What you're saying doesn't sound credible, but to incentivize, here's the bet: If you can provide a Wireshark filter that will show a certificate check on a vanilla Ubuntu 20.04 system when the following commands are executed in a bash shell, then I will donate $25 to a charity of your choice. Commands follow: cat <<HEREDOC >/tmp/file.c #include <stdio.h> int main() { printf("Hello World"); return 0; } HEREDOC gcc /tmp/file.c -o /tmp/app /tmp/app
    - heavyset_go 6y ago
      No, Linux does not. Linux does provide application-level and per-application security, as well as sandboxes, but they exist to help the user and the user has complete control over them and their system.
    - stevenhuang 6y ago
      The comment you are replying to states other OS' do not have this failure mode so your response is quite the non-sequitur, nevermind of questionable veracity (linux).
- KingMachiavelli 6y ago
  Linux? At least then it's your fault when it breaks.
- alpaca128 6y ago
  Users should not put up with this kind of thing, no matter what OS. Forced updates, online startup checks...all unacceptable in my opinion. Imagine no car or train in the region starting because of a server outage. People would riot on the streets. But for some reason in the IT world this kind of crap is marketed as a feature.
  - dwaltrip 6y ago
    I agree! I would love that. However... Where can I buy a computer free of all of those issues?
jamil7 6y ago
Yeah because we’ve never seen windows or linux users have to perform crazy workarounds right.

mamcx 6y ago

This was my intuition! I was in the middle of a call to fix a problem with a customer, I need to near-panic telling them MY computer was frozen. Thanks Apple!