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Welcome to the pandemlympics, where every country is comparable down to the day and everyone is a combined epidemiologist and statistician. Yes Sweden has a se

Welcome to the pandemlympics, where every country is comparable down to the day and everyone is a combined epidemiologist and statistician. Yes Sweden has a second wave, although still in an earlier stage than most other places. Hopefully it can be turned around before ICU numbers start rising again. New recommendations went in place two weeks ago and personally I see less people around, and the mobility data is trending down. [0] Restrictions on serving alcohol in pubs and clubs will start from the 20th, limiting service to before 22:00. I feel that is mostly for show though, since if it truly had a point it would start today and not after people spent one last weekend partying. The spread is mostly in the age group 20-29 currently, so that is a plus. Although trickles of spread in hospice are coming back, which is worrying. They started to allow some visitors a month or so back because the mental health of elderly were deteriorating quite rapidly due to the forced isolation for their own safety. We can see from the Swedish public health authority page that new ICU admittances have leveled off. Hopefully. [1] "Nya intensivvårdade fall per dag" (New ICU cases per day) For those proposing no actions and using Sweden as their argument: Sweden did things. Not French style military police on the streets with fines though. Here's the mobility data. [0] For those proposing sweeping lock-downs and using Sweden as their argument: Sweden did lockdown less than many other places, that is true. The constitution does not allow for restrictions in freedom of movement unless in war so recommendations were used. Here's the mobility data. [0] [0]: https://www.teliacompany.com/sv/om-foretaget/uppdatering/mobility-analysis/ https://www.teliacompany.com/sv/om-foretaget/uppdatering/mob... [1]: https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6...

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fairity 6y ago
> Sweden did things. Not French style military police on the streets with fines though. Here's the mobility data. This point really needs to be hammered home. Sweden basically did a lockdown - it just wasn't enforced. Please, everyone, look at the mobility data in OP's post.
- acqq 6y ago
  Even more fascinating, the way I understand it, the mobility data shows that Sweden was able (and also had to) to keep less mobility for months after the neighboring countries returned to their pre-epidemics levels. I believe Swedes were doing that right, as the neighboring countries for months had much, much less deaths per million. https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&country=SWE~NOR~DNK~FIN~USA&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=smoothed&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=new_cases_per_million&pickerSort=desc https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToS... I've also added the U.S. to compare. As it can be seen, until some point in Summer, Sweden was obviously worse than the U.S. But the U.S. persevered, and having much more people, it also shows how strong the spreading was there. And also to put everything in even broader perspective, measuring in daily deaths per million, there are much worse countries in Europe at this very moment, showing how bad it can be in densely populated regions: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&country=SWE~NOR~DNK~FIN~USA~BEL~CZE~FRA&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=smoothed&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=new_cases_per_million&pickerSort=desc https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToS...

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fairity 6y ago

> Sweden did things. Not French style military police on the streets with fines though. Here's the mobility data. This point really needs to be hammered home. Sweden basically did a lockdown - it just wasn't enforced. Please, everyone, look at the mobility data in OP's post.

acqq 6y ago
Even more fascinating, the way I understand it, the mobility data shows that Sweden was able (and also had to) to keep less mobility for months after the neighboring countries returned to their pre-epidemics levels. I believe Swedes were doing that right, as the neighboring countries for months had much, much less deaths per million. https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&country=SWE~NOR~DNK~FIN~USA&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=smoothed&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=new_cases_per_million&pickerSort=desc https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToS... I've also added the U.S. to compare. As it can be seen, until some point in Summer, Sweden was obviously worse than the U.S. But the U.S. persevered, and having much more people, it also shows how strong the spreading was there. And also to put everything in even broader perspective, measuring in daily deaths per million, there are much worse countries in Europe at this very moment, showing how bad it can be in densely populated regions: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&country=SWE~NOR~DNK~FIN~USA~BEL~CZE~FRA&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=smoothed&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=new_cases_per_million&pickerSort=desc https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToS...