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Depends on the medium. Don't ever say anything against the grain on Twitter (or really any medium that encourages media to go viral). But at least HN is (usuall

by idrios 6y ago

Depends on the medium. Don't ever say anything against the grain on Twitter (or really any medium that encourages media to go viral). But at least HN is (usually) a good, moderated forum where opposing viewpoints can be heard with judgement for the argument and not the arguer. A difference the US has with the situation in the article is the Thai hotel was able to get law enforcement involved -- I don't think the US has crossed that line yet. Also you could view this TripAdvisor warning as a chilling effect against other establishments that might try to use the law to silence critics. Hopefully this hotel goes out of business

treeman79 6y ago
Been seeing more anti-free speech people here. Or maybe the censorship is perfectly fine as long it’s our team mindset. But if you keep your arguments here well written and reasonable usually it’s fine.
- monkeydreams 6y ago
  > Been seeing more anti-free speech people here. Or maybe the censorship is perfectly fine as long it’s our team mindset. Or maybe, just maybe, you do not have the monopoly opinion on what "free speech" is and is not. In all of the examples given, excepting the Thai Hotel case, free speech is still assured. You can still offer your opinions freely, but no publisher is required to publish them. And, having published them, no other punter is required to accept them, and specifically accept them without quarrel. Perhaps what you are seeing is actually free speech in all its glory! The 'anti-free speech people' have a right to speak their opinions just as you do. The fact they exist is proof that free speech exists, as it certainly seems that you would rather they did not voice their opinions. Remember, freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences!
DarthGhandi 6y ago
> where opposing viewpoints can be heard there's a huge amount of overt censorship from people literally disappearing comments along with all the shadowbanning here that is rarely acknowledged, how sure are you about that statement?
dragonsngoblins 6y ago
Just not saying controversial shit on twitter will only get you so far, as someone could just post what you said to twitter

by idrios 6y ago

treeman79 6y ago

Been seeing more anti-free speech people here. Or maybe the censorship is perfectly fine as long it’s our team mindset. But if you keep your arguments here well written and reasonable usually it’s fine.

monkeydreams 6y ago
> Been seeing more anti-free speech people here. Or maybe the censorship is perfectly fine as long it’s our team mindset. Or maybe, just maybe, you do not have the monopoly opinion on what "free speech" is and is not. In all of the examples given, excepting the Thai Hotel case, free speech is still assured. You can still offer your opinions freely, but no publisher is required to publish them. And, having published them, no other punter is required to accept them, and specifically accept them without quarrel. Perhaps what you are seeing is actually free speech in all its glory! The 'anti-free speech people' have a right to speak their opinions just as you do. The fact they exist is proof that free speech exists, as it certainly seems that you would rather they did not voice their opinions. Remember, freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences!

DarthGhandi 6y ago

> where opposing viewpoints can be heard there's a huge amount of overt censorship from people literally disappearing comments along with all the shadowbanning here that is rarely acknowledged, how sure are you about that statement?

dragonsngoblins 6y ago

Just not saying controversial shit on twitter will only get you so far, as someone could just post what you said to twitter