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A huge step forward into Apple’s prison complex maybe. I’ll wait to use ARM on a desktop computer until an OS/platform with more freedom and a much better UI c

A huge step forward into Apple’s prison complex maybe. I’ll wait to use ARM on a desktop computer until an OS/platform with more freedom and a much better UI commonly runs on ARM. That will be Windows.

Razengan 6y ago
> That will be Windows. The only operating system left that you still have to pay for and get third-party ads anyway, with ""telemetry"" you cannot permanently disable and an inconsistent Escheresque nightmare of a UI.
- wayneftw 6y ago
  Pffft. As if you’re not paying for macOS when they charge you $400 for an SSD you could get for $200. If you insist that it’s actually free, then you’re the product and a tool for Apple to use. You can turn off all telemetry [0] in the Windows Enterprise edition which can be purchased by anyone if they bother looking. Even if you couldn’t, anything is better than Apple’s prison and their woefully inadequate UI that everybody here has to spend time and money buying 3rd party apps to fix. Also, next time you open up the app store that you have no choice in using on one of your iDevices or soon on your Mac, think about all the third party ads you’re definitely not looking at and all the telemetry that is definitely not being collected there. [0] and “ads” if that’s what you call a single icon for a 3rd party app which only appears once after installation.
- wayneftw 6y ago
  Just wanted to add the fact that Microsoft telemetry never stopped me from doing anything. Meanwhile nobody can run any apps on their Macs right now because of Apple’s telemetry. Enjoy that!
- higerordermap 6y ago
  > that you still have to pay for You think you don't pay for mac OS? > get third-party ads anyway Not getting any? On start bar? It can simply be resized to hide ads. > an inconsistent Escheresque nightmare of a UI. Some FUD spread by apple fans. Windows, GTK, and QT are all pretty good. There may be small problems but the look and feel of UI is not why I buy a computer.

Razengan 6y ago

> That will be Windows. The only operating system left that you still have to pay for and get third-party ads anyway, with ""telemetry"" you cannot permanently disable and an inconsistent Escheresque nightmare of a UI.

wayneftw 6y ago
Pffft. As if you’re not paying for macOS when they charge you $400 for an SSD you could get for $200. If you insist that it’s actually free, then you’re the product and a tool for Apple to use. You can turn off all telemetry [0] in the Windows Enterprise edition which can be purchased by anyone if they bother looking. Even if you couldn’t, anything is better than Apple’s prison and their woefully inadequate UI that everybody here has to spend time and money buying 3rd party apps to fix. Also, next time you open up the app store that you have no choice in using on one of your iDevices or soon on your Mac, think about all the third party ads you’re definitely not looking at and all the telemetry that is definitely not being collected there. [0] and “ads” if that’s what you call a single icon for a 3rd party app which only appears once after installation.
wayneftw 6y ago
Just wanted to add the fact that Microsoft telemetry never stopped me from doing anything. Meanwhile nobody can run any apps on their Macs right now because of Apple’s telemetry. Enjoy that!
higerordermap 6y ago
> that you still have to pay for You think you don't pay for mac OS? > get third-party ads anyway Not getting any? On start bar? It can simply be resized to hide ads. > an inconsistent Escheresque nightmare of a UI. Some FUD spread by apple fans. Windows, GTK, and QT are all pretty good. There may be small problems but the look and feel of UI is not why I buy a computer.