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I am a little confused, because the post says: "Swedish deaths seem to be 40% above the U.S. equivalent." and backs it up with the following tweet. https://twi

by nickff 6y ago

I am a little confused, because the post says: "Swedish deaths seem to be 40% above the U.S. equivalent." and backs it up with the following tweet. https://twitter.com/thehowie/status/1326896531765665792 https://twitter.com/thehowie/status/1326896531765665792 But as mentioned in one of the comments on the post, Sweden seems to have a (weekly) mortality rate of about 1/3 the US'. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deat... edit: it looks like a follow-up tweet contends that Sweden's back-filling of deaths is skewing their numbers down, though I am not really sure what to make of it. edit2: Sweden seems to have a fewer COVID mortalities (per million population) than the USA, coming in just after France, which seems to further confuse the situation.

rendang 6y ago
The tweet says the Swedish rate is more than 40% OF the US rate, which the blogger appeared to misinterpret as "more than 40% GREATER than the US rate"
- nostromo 6y ago
  Thank you both for checking the sources. Yes, the tweet is saying Sweden is 60% better than the US in terms of daily deaths. The source for claiming immunity is temporary is also just a link to some random tweet with no data. I flagged the article as it’s making pretty big claims based on no real data and a misunderstood tweet.
  - lacker 6y ago
    The referenced tweet is not the main point, the main source is the Financial Times article talking about cases rather than deaths, so I think the main points raised by the post are still valid.
bazzert 6y ago
right, looks like Sweden is doing pretty well compared to the USA. https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&minPopulationFilter=1000000&time=earliest..latest&country=SWE~USA&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=smoothed&aligned=true&hideControls=true&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToS...
sxp 6y ago
I find 91-divoc.com the best site for stats and graphs. It currently shows Sweden's 7-day mortality rate as .118 and rising while the US is at .34 and rising. Both are above the global average of .108. Both countries are below the threshold for the top 25 mortality rates which is ~.5 http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=countries-normalized&highlight=Sweden&show=25-lg&y=both&scale=log&data=deaths-daily-7&data-source=jhu&xaxis=right&extra=United%20States%2CGlobal#countries-normalized http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=countri...

by nickff 6y ago

rendang 6y ago

The tweet says the Swedish rate is more than 40% OF the US rate, which the blogger appeared to misinterpret as "more than 40% GREATER than the US rate"

nostromo 6y ago
Thank you both for checking the sources. Yes, the tweet is saying Sweden is 60% better than the US in terms of daily deaths. The source for claiming immunity is temporary is also just a link to some random tweet with no data. I flagged the article as it’s making pretty big claims based on no real data and a misunderstood tweet.
- lacker 6y ago
  The referenced tweet is not the main point, the main source is the Financial Times article talking about cases rather than deaths, so I think the main points raised by the post are still valid.

bazzert 6y ago

right, looks like Sweden is doing pretty well compared to the USA. https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&minPopulationFilter=1000000&time=earliest..latest&country=SWE~USA&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=smoothed&aligned=true&hideControls=true&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToS...

sxp 6y ago

I find 91-divoc.com the best site for stats and graphs. It currently shows Sweden's 7-day mortality rate as .118 and rising while the US is at .34 and rising. Both are above the global average of .108. Both countries are below the threshold for the top 25 mortality rates which is ~.5 http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=countries-normalized&highlight=Sweden&show=25-lg&y=both&scale=log&data=deaths-daily-7&data-source=jhu&xaxis=right&extra=United%20States%2CGlobal#countries-normalized http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=countri...