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Is the full screen behavior still the same? Is it possible to disable apps from expanding to full screen and instead only expand to maximum size? The top menu

Is the full screen behavior still the same? Is it possible to disable apps from expanding to full screen and instead only expand to maximum size? The top menu bar is also hidden when apps go full screen. I think the only alternative is to hold down option key when expanding the window.

fimdomeio 6y ago
Since that feature was introduced I think I only ever used it by mistake. I think it would make a lot more sense if pressing alt would allow for fullscreen and normal click would be maximize.
zalthor 6y ago
If you double click the top bar (or use one of the many window management tools), you can maximize the window without going full screen.
brundolf 6y ago
Save yourself the headache, use a third-party window manager. I've been using this one for six years with no complaints: https://folivora.ai/ https://folivora.ai/ Beyond giving you basics like Windows-style "snapping", it's highly customizable with keyboard and even trackpad and touch bar shortcuts
boringg 6y ago
https://github.com/eczarny/spectacle https://github.com/eczarny/spectacle Great for short cuts to resizing your screens better then the OS Version I was using before.
- KORraN 6y ago
  Spectacle is no longer maintained (it may matter with Big Sur release). Rectangle is based on Spectacle and is actively developed: https://github.com/rxhanson/Rectangle https://github.com/rxhanson/Rectangle
  - boringg 6y ago
    Ahh thanks. While it may no longer be maintained it still works perfectly. Fingers crossed it keeps going that way or will get rectangle.
geoelectric 6y ago
Hold down opt when you click the maximize button and it'll do what you want instead, and resize to cover all the area between dock and menu. Assuming you have "zoom" set in System Preferences | Dock, double-clicking the title bar does that too, I believe.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  > resize to cover all the area between dock and menu That is usually not what people want; they want it to cover the screen.
  - geoelectric 6y ago
    What I'm describing as the "opt" behavior is the classic maximizing behavior on both Mac and Windows (except Windows doesn't have a top bar). If you don't hide the dock/start bar it maxes to its limit, if you hide it goes to the bottom. Maybe it was unclear when I didn't mention it'll max side to side too if the bar is on the bottom. If bar is on the side it'll leave a gutter on the side. TL;DR it's a normal maximize--doesn't cover the doc or menu bar and you can float windows in front of it since it's not full screen mode.
    - saagarjha 6y ago
      I just did that on the Safari window I was using to type the comment and it just went tall. That is not what I would call "maximize".
      - bartvk 6y ago
        It's been like that for ages, isn't that typical macOS behavior? Note that I hate that behavior as well :) I fixed it first with a hotkey and a little Lua hacking within Hammerspoon. Now I just use Amethyst.
        saagarjha 6y ago
        Yes, it is. I think most people hate it ;)
harrygeez 6y ago
I can't believe they're still not giving us an option to toggle this behavior. This is the biggest mistake in macOS.

fimdomeio 6y ago

Since that feature was introduced I think I only ever used it by mistake. I think it would make a lot more sense if pressing alt would allow for fullscreen and normal click would be maximize.

zalthor 6y ago

If you double click the top bar (or use one of the many window management tools), you can maximize the window without going full screen.

brundolf 6y ago

Save yourself the headache, use a third-party window manager. I've been using this one for six years with no complaints: https://folivora.ai/ https://folivora.ai/ Beyond giving you basics like Windows-style "snapping", it's highly customizable with keyboard and even trackpad and touch bar shortcuts

boringg 6y ago

https://github.com/eczarny/spectacle https://github.com/eczarny/spectacle Great for short cuts to resizing your screens better then the OS Version I was using before.

KORraN 6y ago
Spectacle is no longer maintained (it may matter with Big Sur release). Rectangle is based on Spectacle and is actively developed: https://github.com/rxhanson/Rectangle https://github.com/rxhanson/Rectangle
- boringg 6y ago
  Ahh thanks. While it may no longer be maintained it still works perfectly. Fingers crossed it keeps going that way or will get rectangle.

geoelectric 6y ago

Hold down opt when you click the maximize button and it'll do what you want instead, and resize to cover all the area between dock and menu. Assuming you have "zoom" set in System Preferences | Dock, double-clicking the title bar does that too, I believe.

saagarjha 6y ago
> resize to cover all the area between dock and menu That is usually not what people want; they want it to cover the screen.
- geoelectric 6y ago
  What I'm describing as the "opt" behavior is the classic maximizing behavior on both Mac and Windows (except Windows doesn't have a top bar). If you don't hide the dock/start bar it maxes to its limit, if you hide it goes to the bottom. Maybe it was unclear when I didn't mention it'll max side to side too if the bar is on the bottom. If bar is on the side it'll leave a gutter on the side. TL;DR it's a normal maximize--doesn't cover the doc or menu bar and you can float windows in front of it since it's not full screen mode.
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    I just did that on the Safari window I was using to type the comment and it just went tall. That is not what I would call "maximize".
    - bartvk 6y ago
      It's been like that for ages, isn't that typical macOS behavior? Note that I hate that behavior as well :) I fixed it first with a hotkey and a little Lua hacking within Hammerspoon. Now I just use Amethyst.
      - saagarjha 6y ago
        Yes, it is. I think most people hate it ;)

harrygeez 6y ago

I can't believe they're still not giving us an option to toggle this behavior. This is the biggest mistake in macOS.