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> This is Guido van Rossum. If I were him and asked to solve puzzles, I'd tell the hiring company to fuck off. Not sure what you're trying to get at: MacOS ho

> This is Guido van Rossum. If I were him and asked to solve puzzles, I'd tell the hiring company to fuck off. Not sure what you're trying to get at: MacOS homebrew creator is an effin nobody compared to Guido, therefore he should "know his place", "get in line" and invert a binary tree on the whiteboard and act like an obedient tech interview candidate that he really is? OR MacOS homebrew creator should've told Google to fuck off?

Twixes 6y ago
I love Homebrew – but it really isn't that much of an achievement compared to damn Python, and I also have no idea who is its creator.
- fizixer 6y ago
  Homebrew is 11 years old. I'm willing to bet there are as many people (likely fewer) people who knew Guido in 2002, when Python was 11 years old, or even 2005, when Google hired Guido. And I'm willing to bet when Google hired Guido in 2005, they didn't put him through a coding challenge humiliation clown show day.
deeeeplearning 6y ago
Imagine a University asking a Physics Nobel Laureate to solve QM Problems from an undergrad textbook in order to get hired as a Professor. It would the height of lunacy and incredibly insulting.
- a-nikolaev 6y ago
  Guido is not a Physics Nobel Laureate. Going with the Physics analogy, Python is more like an overgrown masters level project, not a Nobel prize level by far. He did a good job at growing the Python community, and this is a great achievement! It requires certain personal traits not everyone has. But at the technical level, he made many beginners mistakes when designing Python, which he tried to fix later, but not always successfully.
  - nicklaf 6y ago
    An overgrown masters level project, eh? You could probably say the same thing about the founding of the United States! "The US constitution is like an overgrown enlightenment dissertation. The founding fathers did a good job at growing the United States, and this is a great achievement! It requires certain personal traits not everyone has. But at a technical level, they made many beginner's mistakes when drafting the constitution, which the country tried to fix later, but not always successfully." :-P
    - a-nikolaev 6y ago
      Maybe.
    - gdy 6y ago
      It may come to you as a surprise, but for an outside observer, who hasn't been indoctrinated at school by the religion of American exceptionalism, the US might not be a very good example. Think of American military-industrial complex that apparently defines the country's foreign policy.
      - nicklaf 6y ago
        My analogy was meant to cut both ways, and serves as much as a criticism of the US constitution as it does a compliment! You'd certainly be wrong to assume that Americans are all in favor of our foreign policy, to say the least. Aside from that, some of the downsides to the US constitution that inspired my comment include the way the founding fathers totally failed to anticipate that the nation would be completely polarized by a two party system, and that this polarization would happen along geographic lines. Admittedly, this compromise whereby rural states with lower populations enjoy disproportionate political representation is baked into the constitution being agreed to in the first place (the 3/5ths compromise being relevant here as well). As we've moved to more direct democracy, with things like the electoral college being bound to the (local) popular vote and the direct election of senators, the original intentions of having a federation of mostly autonomous states becomes more and more anachronistic, while still fueling an increasingly polarized electorate that pits high-tax revenue and high population centers like SF and NY against low-tax revenue and low population centers that make up most of the country. The United States is large geographic region with a heterogeneous economy. I don't know if a parliamentary form of government would have served this kind of country well, but certainly most friends from abroad who have spoken to me on the subject have implied that proportional representation is far more sensible than FPTP voting, and that parliamentary forms of government avoid the gridlock and polarization that our de facto two-party system engenders.
driverdan 6y ago
> MacOS homebrew creator should've told Google to fuck off? Yes, that's exactly what he should have done.
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Twixes 6y ago

I love Homebrew – but it really isn't that much of an achievement compared to damn Python, and I also have no idea who is its creator.

fizixer 6y ago
Homebrew is 11 years old. I'm willing to bet there are as many people (likely fewer) people who knew Guido in 2002, when Python was 11 years old, or even 2005, when Google hired Guido. And I'm willing to bet when Google hired Guido in 2005, they didn't put him through a coding challenge humiliation clown show day.

deeeeplearning 6y ago

Imagine a University asking a Physics Nobel Laureate to solve QM Problems from an undergrad textbook in order to get hired as a Professor. It would the height of lunacy and incredibly insulting.

a-nikolaev 6y ago
Guido is not a Physics Nobel Laureate. Going with the Physics analogy, Python is more like an overgrown masters level project, not a Nobel prize level by far. He did a good job at growing the Python community, and this is a great achievement! It requires certain personal traits not everyone has. But at the technical level, he made many beginners mistakes when designing Python, which he tried to fix later, but not always successfully.
- nicklaf 6y ago
  An overgrown masters level project, eh? You could probably say the same thing about the founding of the United States! "The US constitution is like an overgrown enlightenment dissertation. The founding fathers did a good job at growing the United States, and this is a great achievement! It requires certain personal traits not everyone has. But at a technical level, they made many beginner's mistakes when drafting the constitution, which the country tried to fix later, but not always successfully." :-P
  - a-nikolaev 6y ago
    Maybe.
  - gdy 6y ago
    It may come to you as a surprise, but for an outside observer, who hasn't been indoctrinated at school by the religion of American exceptionalism, the US might not be a very good example. Think of American military-industrial complex that apparently defines the country's foreign policy.
    - nicklaf 6y ago
      My analogy was meant to cut both ways, and serves as much as a criticism of the US constitution as it does a compliment! You'd certainly be wrong to assume that Americans are all in favor of our foreign policy, to say the least. Aside from that, some of the downsides to the US constitution that inspired my comment include the way the founding fathers totally failed to anticipate that the nation would be completely polarized by a two party system, and that this polarization would happen along geographic lines. Admittedly, this compromise whereby rural states with lower populations enjoy disproportionate political representation is baked into the constitution being agreed to in the first place (the 3/5ths compromise being relevant here as well). As we've moved to more direct democracy, with things like the electoral college being bound to the (local) popular vote and the direct election of senators, the original intentions of having a federation of mostly autonomous states becomes more and more anachronistic, while still fueling an increasingly polarized electorate that pits high-tax revenue and high population centers like SF and NY against low-tax revenue and low population centers that make up most of the country. The United States is large geographic region with a heterogeneous economy. I don't know if a parliamentary form of government would have served this kind of country well, but certainly most friends from abroad who have spoken to me on the subject have implied that proportional representation is far more sensible than FPTP voting, and that parliamentary forms of government avoid the gridlock and polarization that our de facto two-party system engenders.

driverdan 6y ago

> MacOS homebrew creator should've told Google to fuck off? Yes, that's exactly what he should have done.

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