This seems like a good example of productive discussion! While this won't necessarily solve the original poster's problems in of itself, it does give actionable

This seems like a good example of productive discussion! While this won't necessarily solve the original poster's problems in of itself, it does give actionable steps on how to address them! As for anyone interested in real world comparisons of many of the popular frameworks (though not necessarily the most bleeding edge versions), feel free to have a look here: https://github.com/gothinkster/realworld https://github.com/gothinkster/realworld The last time someone did a writeup on the results was in the March of 2020, but even then Angular wasn't necessarily that big in the bundle sizes that it generated: https://medium.com/dailyjs/a-realworld-comparison-of-front-end-frameworks-2020-4e50655fe4c1 https://medium.com/dailyjs/a-realworld-comparison-of-front-e... Though the situation can indeed worsen as you introduce more and more libraries into the mix and as the project grows.