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I spent a LOT of time staring at Angular trying to figure out what problem it was actually supposed to be solving and finally gave up. If it actually does some

I spent a LOT of time staring at Angular trying to figure out what problem it was actually supposed to be solving and finally gave up. If it actually does something useful, it's beyond my comprehension.

ozim 6y ago
Did you ever had to manage or lead team of 5 to 10 developers? Have you seen web application implemented in MVC+jQuery where each page was developed by different person and everyone was just making their own approach. Then when something was to be fixed and other person was taking over he was introducing his own ideas to code already written by someone else. That is what angular solves for me, I don't have to spend time introducing new person to the project structure. I don't have to argue with "I know better juniors", I don't have to deal with condescending seniors "who wrote it that way it is total mess". Maybe you have seen some project handover to different team or you got project inherited from someone. It will be a lot easier to understand if that other team speaks "angular". I don't say code is perfect, you can still write total mess with it, but having angular saves a lot of digging into some insane monstrosities that I have seen in jQuery. In the end you might never need it, because everyone has different requirements and different projects.
- commandlinefan 6y ago
  See that's the thing - and I'm not being confrontational or sarcastic, I genuinely don't understand - when I've seen Angular code it still looks to me like each page was developed by a different person and everyone was just making their own approach (unless, of course, it was all written by a single person). It seems to me that what you're suggesting is that using Angular forces developers "into a box" (in a good way), but I can't figure out what that box actually is.
  - ozim 6y ago
    I would like to have a good explanation that might suit you. But I don't think there is a way to find it out without sitting together and working through some code.
villgax 6y ago
The uncertainty of issues ever being fixed or given importance is a huge concern which people when looking for suitable MVC framework overlook. Something simpler than ng/React, yet able to compose architectures with plain JS, all without compiling front-end.

ozim 6y ago

Did you ever had to manage or lead team of 5 to 10 developers? Have you seen web application implemented in MVC+jQuery where each page was developed by different person and everyone was just making their own approach. Then when something was to be fixed and other person was taking over he was introducing his own ideas to code already written by someone else. That is what angular solves for me, I don't have to spend time introducing new person to the project structure. I don't have to argue with "I know better juniors", I don't have to deal with condescending seniors "who wrote it that way it is total mess". Maybe you have seen some project handover to different team or you got project inherited from someone. It will be a lot easier to understand if that other team speaks "angular". I don't say code is perfect, you can still write total mess with it, but having angular saves a lot of digging into some insane monstrosities that I have seen in jQuery. In the end you might never need it, because everyone has different requirements and different projects.

commandlinefan 6y ago
See that's the thing - and I'm not being confrontational or sarcastic, I genuinely don't understand - when I've seen Angular code it still looks to me like each page was developed by a different person and everyone was just making their own approach (unless, of course, it was all written by a single person). It seems to me that what you're suggesting is that using Angular forces developers "into a box" (in a good way), but I can't figure out what that box actually is.
- ozim 6y ago
  I would like to have a good explanation that might suit you. But I don't think there is a way to find it out without sitting together and working through some code.

villgax 6y ago

The uncertainty of issues ever being fixed or given importance is a huge concern which people when looking for suitable MVC framework overlook. Something simpler than ng/React, yet able to compose architectures with plain JS, all without compiling front-end.