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Direct link to the video without the shitty local news site: https://youtu.be/V6CLumsir34 https://youtu.be/V6CLumsir34 Side rant: Their ad-tracking cookie opt-

by ceph_ 6y ago

Direct link to the video without the shitty local news site: https://youtu.be/V6CLumsir34 https://youtu.be/V6CLumsir34 Side rant: Their ad-tracking cookie opt-out is the epitome of a dark design pattern. It took over 2 minutes to run. Including saying "done" in a pop out and the only leaving a cancel button for another 15 seconds. There's absolutely zero reason it should take even 1/10th of that time, other than purposefully bad UX.

danso 6y ago
KATU, this local news site, are the ones who not only produced the original segment, but 50 years later, worked with the historical society to restore and digitally remaster the original film. Their article contains context and retrospective commentary. edit: to be clear, just explaining why I submitted the link rather than the Youtube link. I don't endorse dark patterned ad code, though I've tried opening the link in a couple of incognito browsers and didn't run into any issues.
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- interestica 6y ago
  The KATU video seems to be limited to 360p max for me. The YouTube link is the remastered quality that the article seems to be describing.
  - danso 6y ago
    Looks like I ended up being in the wrong then. This morning when I read it, the article embedded the high-res Youtube video (which you could also click to view directly on Youtube) at the bottom of the article. Looks like that at some point today, they've removed the Youtube embed for their own player: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fkatu.com%2Fnews%2Flocal%2Fthe-exploding-whale-50th-anniversary-of-legendary-oregon-event&oq=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fkatu.com%2Fnews%2Flocal%2Fthe-exploding-whale-50th-anniversary-of-legendary-oregon-event http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttps...
  - kayfox 6y ago
    The KATU video is from the remastered video, the previous versions of the video were all bad U-Matic transfers. You can tell the difference by the on screen text, the U-Matic transfers had, in layman terms, chunky text.
    - interestica 6y ago
      The remastered 'chunky text' is a bit jarring and incongruent on the 4k version. It's just too sharp to be placed on film stock with that much grain. And then there's the issue of ruining the footage with these burned-in overlays (countdown, really?)
nebulous1 6y ago
That js popup actually got an audible laugh from me. Left me curious as to whether it triggered it if you just accept all the cookies.
quaffapint 6y ago
If you use uBlock Origin with the annoyances filter you don't see any of that. As far as cookies, you can just use something like Vanilla cookie that will clear them outside of the one's you want to keep. Unfortunately the browsers dont let them clear the other storages, but at least you wont have the cookies following you.
leephillips 6y ago
I didn't see any of this, and I have no plugins installed. Perhaps my hostfile blocked it: http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/ http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/
gspr 6y ago
It's not just a shitty local news site, it's part of Sinclair Broadcast Group, the epitome of scummy, society-destroying media.
nelaboras 6y ago
It's even darker, after those two minutes it told me some advertisers can't receive the opt out by https so it wasn't actually submitted, and to follow another link. And then it didn't load the actual content...
C19is20 6y ago
What better way to show the value of adblockers, host file, ublock etc to people that might otherwise think they're unnecessary.
black_puppydog 6y ago
plus, opting out will set hundreds of "no thank you" cookies with all their 3rd party tracker, if I understand correctly. I closed the page without reading/viewing, and came here to rant about it. Thanks for being first. :)
pugworthy 6y ago
Aaanyway... how about that whale? Much like those proposals for constructs that would warn people of the dangers of radioactive waste for 10,000 years, this video has served as warning for 50 years about what not to do with a dead whale on the beach. With the remastering, perhaps it can still continue its mission for many more years to come.
johtso 6y ago
Right.. probably one of the worst I've come across. Finally got me to make the effort to install a browser extension. Seems to be doing the trick. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/i-dont-care-about-cookies/fihnjjcciajhdojfnbdddfaoknhalnja/related?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/i-dont-care-about-...
Markoff 6y ago
thanks, though I still fail to see how is it remastered, after remastering it looks like 1970s recording should look like and the original video certainly ain't up to 1970s standards

by ceph_ 6y ago

danso 6y ago

KATU, this local news site, are the ones who not only produced the original segment, but 50 years later, worked with the historical society to restore and digitally remaster the original film. Their article contains context and retrospective commentary. edit: to be clear, just explaining why I submitted the link rather than the Youtube link. I don't endorse dark patterned ad code, though I've tried opening the link in a couple of incognito browsers and didn't run into any issues.

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interestica 6y ago
The KATU video seems to be limited to 360p max for me. The YouTube link is the remastered quality that the article seems to be describing.
- danso 6y ago
  Looks like I ended up being in the wrong then. This morning when I read it, the article embedded the high-res Youtube video (which you could also click to view directly on Youtube) at the bottom of the article. Looks like that at some point today, they've removed the Youtube embed for their own player: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fkatu.com%2Fnews%2Flocal%2Fthe-exploding-whale-50th-anniversary-of-legendary-oregon-event&oq=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fkatu.com%2Fnews%2Flocal%2Fthe-exploding-whale-50th-anniversary-of-legendary-oregon-event http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttps...
- kayfox 6y ago
  The KATU video is from the remastered video, the previous versions of the video were all bad U-Matic transfers. You can tell the difference by the on screen text, the U-Matic transfers had, in layman terms, chunky text.
  - interestica 6y ago
    The remastered 'chunky text' is a bit jarring and incongruent on the 4k version. It's just too sharp to be placed on film stock with that much grain. And then there's the issue of ruining the footage with these burned-in overlays (countdown, really?)

nebulous1 6y ago

That js popup actually got an audible laugh from me. Left me curious as to whether it triggered it if you just accept all the cookies.

quaffapint 6y ago

If you use uBlock Origin with the annoyances filter you don't see any of that. As far as cookies, you can just use something like Vanilla cookie that will clear them outside of the one's you want to keep. Unfortunately the browsers dont let them clear the other storages, but at least you wont have the cookies following you.

leephillips 6y ago

I didn't see any of this, and I have no plugins installed. Perhaps my hostfile blocked it: http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/ http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/

gspr 6y ago

It's not just a shitty local news site, it's part of Sinclair Broadcast Group, the epitome of scummy, society-destroying media.

nelaboras 6y ago

It's even darker, after those two minutes it told me some advertisers can't receive the opt out by https so it wasn't actually submitted, and to follow another link. And then it didn't load the actual content...

C19is20 6y ago

What better way to show the value of adblockers, host file, ublock etc to people that might otherwise think they're unnecessary.

black_puppydog 6y ago

plus, opting out will set hundreds of "no thank you" cookies with all their 3rd party tracker, if I understand correctly. I closed the page without reading/viewing, and came here to rant about it. Thanks for being first. :)

pugworthy 6y ago

Aaanyway... how about that whale? Much like those proposals for constructs that would warn people of the dangers of radioactive waste for 10,000 years, this video has served as warning for 50 years about what not to do with a dead whale on the beach. With the remastering, perhaps it can still continue its mission for many more years to come.

johtso 6y ago

Right.. probably one of the worst I've come across. Finally got me to make the effort to install a browser extension. Seems to be doing the trick. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/i-dont-care-about-cookies/fihnjjcciajhdojfnbdddfaoknhalnja/related?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/i-dont-care-about-...

Markoff 6y ago

thanks, though I still fail to see how is it remastered, after remastering it looks like 1970s recording should look like and the original video certainly ain't up to 1970s standards