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(I'm using "you" not to mean "you personally", but both uto/dystopian AI futurists.) You have used technology right? You know it is all mostly shit that break

(I'm using "you" not to mean "you personally", but both uto/dystopian AI futurists.) You have used technology right? You know it is all mostly shit that breaks down, crashes, and gets replaced and thrown out on an 18 month cycle? What I think lots of people get wrong is forgetting just how crappy consumer tech is, and industrial/military isn't far behind. We may get AI working well in 5-25 years, but I doubt deployments will be any less buggy. Repairing & provisioning the billions of bots will be most of the "tech" jobs. Think like the IT dept at your company that hands out new laptops, times a million.

koheripbal 6y ago
"AI" is such a vague term we forget that it encompasses both horribly stupid industry/task specific systems as well as grand artificial minds that might one say dwarf all of human intelligence combined. For the first, you are right - certainly in that timescale. For the later, I assume we will need to justify our continued existence.
- SoSoRoCoCo 6y ago
  AI isn't a vague term at all. It is extremely well defined. The best example I can point you to is from the 1990's by Russell & Norvig in their seminal work "Artificial Intelligence" which coalesces a half century of research. They spend the first 100 pages clearly defining the types of domains and vocabulary needed to define the space of AI: it is an exhaustive analysis with citations going back decades, covering early thinkers like Norbert Wiener and Von Neumann. Your claim indicates you haven't really studied the field. But everyone jumping into tensorflow on a raspberry pi has probably had zero exposure the to decades of research put into AI. Your second claim about a giant mind that might dwarf all of humanity, is, well, grandiose sci-fi. Much like Dyson Spheres or Time Travel.
  - koheripbal 6y ago
    I would argue that an AI more intelligent than humanity is far more realistic than a Dyson Sphere or Time Travel - and something I would not be surprised to see within the next 100 years. ...simply because even a reasonably intelligent AI would have the ability to improve itself at a rate orders of magnitude faster than biological evolution.

koheripbal 6y ago

"AI" is such a vague term we forget that it encompasses both horribly stupid industry/task specific systems as well as grand artificial minds that might one say dwarf all of human intelligence combined. For the first, you are right - certainly in that timescale. For the later, I assume we will need to justify our continued existence.

SoSoRoCoCo 6y ago
AI isn't a vague term at all. It is extremely well defined. The best example I can point you to is from the 1990's by Russell & Norvig in their seminal work "Artificial Intelligence" which coalesces a half century of research. They spend the first 100 pages clearly defining the types of domains and vocabulary needed to define the space of AI: it is an exhaustive analysis with citations going back decades, covering early thinkers like Norbert Wiener and Von Neumann. Your claim indicates you haven't really studied the field. But everyone jumping into tensorflow on a raspberry pi has probably had zero exposure the to decades of research put into AI. Your second claim about a giant mind that might dwarf all of humanity, is, well, grandiose sci-fi. Much like Dyson Spheres or Time Travel.
- koheripbal 6y ago
  I would argue that an AI more intelligent than humanity is far more realistic than a Dyson Sphere or Time Travel - and something I would not be surprised to see within the next 100 years. ...simply because even a reasonably intelligent AI would have the ability to improve itself at a rate orders of magnitude faster than biological evolution.