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Honda has spent decades building consumer trust based on safety and quality. This has me suspecting that many consumers will trust them, over Tesla or another

Honda has spent decades building consumer trust based on safety and quality. This has me suspecting that many consumers will trust them, over Tesla or another newly established brand when it comes to autonomous driving. Personally I'll take "works ok but is bulletproof" over "cutting edge but buggy" any day.

imeron 6y ago
Bulletproof on Japanese roads where immaculate paint is given or also on rural third world country roads?
- deleted 6y ago
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- mrtnmcc 6y ago
  That's a key distinction, "the road" is an ambiguity that these car companies love to deploy.
- josefresco 6y ago
  Personally I trust that before Honda rolls this tech out in the United States, it will be in fact bulletproof. Or at least that's my perception as a US consumer who has owned multiple Honda products. Given what I read about Tesla, they'd most likely blame the roads, the driver or simply lie about the capabilities and push forward because "it's safer than humans!".
- grecy 6y ago
  > or also on rural third world country roads? I drove 40,000 miles from Alaska to Argentina and 54,000 miles around Africa [1]. From experience, I can tell you the vast majority of vehicles sold in the developed world wouldn't last a couple of months on 'rural third world country roads'. The potholes, corrugations, mud, dust and everything else are intense. For eg, this is how I crossed the Democratic Republic of Congo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV8V3GdOcPU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV8V3GdOcPU [1] youtube.com/theroadchoseme
  - klipklop 6y ago
    Just checked this out. Awesome channel!
mtgx 6y ago
It doesn't matter what they say or how trustworthy they are. The car is Level 3, which means you can still die using this system anytime you might take your eyes off the road and something happens in that moment on the road that leads to an accident. And Holda will not be liable for it. But if you want to be a "beta tester" of anything prior to Level 5 (and even that is still a pretty arbitrary level of autonomy that will likely be quite different in how it works across car makers) then go ahead. You're only only risking your life.

imeron 6y ago

Bulletproof on Japanese roads where immaculate paint is given or also on rural third world country roads?

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mrtnmcc 6y ago
That's a key distinction, "the road" is an ambiguity that these car companies love to deploy.
josefresco 6y ago
Personally I trust that before Honda rolls this tech out in the United States, it will be in fact bulletproof. Or at least that's my perception as a US consumer who has owned multiple Honda products. Given what I read about Tesla, they'd most likely blame the roads, the driver or simply lie about the capabilities and push forward because "it's safer than humans!".
grecy 6y ago
> or also on rural third world country roads? I drove 40,000 miles from Alaska to Argentina and 54,000 miles around Africa [1]. From experience, I can tell you the vast majority of vehicles sold in the developed world wouldn't last a couple of months on 'rural third world country roads'. The potholes, corrugations, mud, dust and everything else are intense. For eg, this is how I crossed the Democratic Republic of Congo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV8V3GdOcPU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV8V3GdOcPU [1] youtube.com/theroadchoseme
- klipklop 6y ago
  Just checked this out. Awesome channel!

mtgx 6y ago

It doesn't matter what they say or how trustworthy they are. The car is Level 3, which means you can still die using this system anytime you might take your eyes off the road and something happens in that moment on the road that leads to an accident. And Holda will not be liable for it. But if you want to be a "beta tester" of anything prior to Level 5 (and even that is still a pretty arbitrary level of autonomy that will likely be quite different in how it works across car makers) then go ahead. You're only only risking your life.