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Okay, honest question coming from ignorance. In computing at least, there's a well known diversity disparity going back to STEM graduation rates. It seems fina

Okay, honest question coming from ignorance. In computing at least, there's a well known diversity disparity going back to STEM graduation rates. It seems financial is a similar boat: Wells Fargo recently claimed a “limited talent pool" but got criticized by AOC for lacking "talent to recruit Black workers". Obviously society, including industry, could do more to get kids into school. But right now, in the resume pile, what should employers be doing, and why is "not enough X talent" not a good defense? https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/09/23/wells-fargo-ceo-black-employees/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/09/23/wells-far...

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benjaminjosephw 6y ago
The pipelines have problems for sure but this study was about whether or not a focus on diversity in hiring was effective. I think the important bit is here: > Our results in light of these considerations suggest that the push for diversity without any effort towards inclusion is unlikely to be sustainable in the long term.
jdmichal 6y ago
There's a lot of implicit assumptions around this stuff that actually matter a lot, and the demographics of the actual candidate pool [0] as opposed to the general population is a huge one. I would venture that most people pushing diversity agenda want representation to match the general population, but that may not be supported the candidate pool. As you point out, it's well studied that women don't graduate with STEM degrees at a rate that matches the general population. That means that for every company that matches general population for women in STEM fields, there's other companies that literally cannot unless they hire unqualified women from outside the candidate pool. [0] I'm defining this as the group of all possible people who are qualified to be hired into a role.

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benjaminjosephw 6y ago

The pipelines have problems for sure but this study was about whether or not a focus on diversity in hiring was effective. I think the important bit is here: > Our results in light of these considerations suggest that the push for diversity without any effort towards inclusion is unlikely to be sustainable in the long term.

jdmichal 6y ago

There's a lot of implicit assumptions around this stuff that actually matter a lot, and the demographics of the actual candidate pool [0] as opposed to the general population is a huge one. I would venture that most people pushing diversity agenda want representation to match the general population, but that may not be supported the candidate pool. As you point out, it's well studied that women don't graduate with STEM degrees at a rate that matches the general population. That means that for every company that matches general population for women in STEM fields, there's other companies that literally cannot unless they hire unqualified women from outside the candidate pool. [0] I'm defining this as the group of all possible people who are qualified to be hired into a role.