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WRT ADHD support, I can’t say I believe this. With our medications being on controlled substances lists, and all the (ironically incredibly ADHD unfriendly) hoo

WRT ADHD support, I can’t say I believe this. With our medications being on controlled substances lists, and all the (ironically incredibly ADHD unfriendly) hoops we have to jump through just to get those meds, it’s kinda hard to believe that everyone else in the world is somehow worse than that.

swebs 6y ago
You'd be surprised https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylphenidate#Legal_status https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylphenidate#Legal_status
- falcolas 6y ago
  Per that link, it's only illegal in Russia (which is fucked up) but it's pretty close to identical to how the US handles it in every other listed country.
atemerev 6y ago
ADHD person here, who lived in 6 countries, including the US (the other 5 are Russia, Italy, Denmark, Spain, and Switzerland). Getting ADHD stimulant medications is way easier in the US than elsewhere. Here in Switzerland, for example, adult ADHD was even started to be recognized only since 2011. No immediate release formulations are legal here, only extended release. Even though Novartis, a Swiss company, is the producer of Ritalin. You can't get Ritalin in Switzerland, as it is an immediate release drug. In Russia, _all_ stimulant drugs are banned (and ADHD usually is not even recognized as a valid diagnosis). As is you can get to prison there if you take your Ritalin with you.
- cpursley 6y ago
  Strattera is legal in Russia (its a slightly different class of drug)
kayodelycaon 6y ago
I live in Ohio. ADHD meds are not that difficult to get. There’s some frustrating paperwork but that’s literally it. Any doctor can prescribe stimulant medication. Bipolar medication on the other hand, many of my bipolar friends in Europe have difficulty getting proper medication, much less proper treatment. In the US, the only issue I had was finding a psychiatrist and therapist who was available. The problem is cost. If I had ended up getting sent to inpatient treatment (nearly happened), the bill would have been huge.
- DanBC 6y ago
  > Bipolar medication on the other hand, many of my bipolar friends in Europe have difficulty getting proper medication, much less proper treatment. It's hard to have a conversation when you talk about "europe", where there are a dozen different healthcare systems. Here in the UK treatment (including medication) is easily available to anyone who needs it.
- falcolas 6y ago
  The lady who runs "How To ADHD" on YouTube recently discussed her issues in getting a prescription after moving. A slice of the challenges she faced: - Few psychiatrists/doctors were willing to prescribe meds to an adult. - You can't call to check on availability of Schedule II medications from pharmacies, you have to query in person, and many require a prescription before they'll answer. - Insurance often requires pre-approval to pay for the meds - another hoop and another delay. - You can only ever get one month prescription at a time (with no refills), and have to contact your doctor every month. Not too early, not too late. Any one of these issues can be tough when you have an executive function disorder (poor short term memory, poor awareness of time, etc.), and especially if you run out of your meds and are fighting yourself just to do basic self care.
  - ketamine__ 6y ago
    > Few psychiatrists/doctors were willing to prescribe meds to an adult. Never had an issue with this and I have frequently switched doctors. I'd suggest finding a prescribing nurse practitioner. It's hard to find a psychiatrist without waiting six months for the first appointment. > You can't call to check on availability of Schedule II medications from pharmacies, you have to query in person, and many require a prescription before they'll answer. I drop three prescriptions off at a time. Or it's called in and then I call for refills. If they don't have it in stock they can probably order it. > You can only ever get one month prescription at a time (with no refills), and have to contact your doctor every month. Not too early, not too late. I've had five or six psychiatrists. All of them prescribe 3 months in advance after the prescription is stabilized.

swebs 6y ago

You'd be surprised https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylphenidate#Legal_status https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylphenidate#Legal_status

falcolas 6y ago
Per that link, it's only illegal in Russia (which is fucked up) but it's pretty close to identical to how the US handles it in every other listed country.

atemerev 6y ago

ADHD person here, who lived in 6 countries, including the US (the other 5 are Russia, Italy, Denmark, Spain, and Switzerland). Getting ADHD stimulant medications is way easier in the US than elsewhere. Here in Switzerland, for example, adult ADHD was even started to be recognized only since 2011. No immediate release formulations are legal here, only extended release. Even though Novartis, a Swiss company, is the producer of Ritalin. You can't get Ritalin in Switzerland, as it is an immediate release drug. In Russia, _all_ stimulant drugs are banned (and ADHD usually is not even recognized as a valid diagnosis). As is you can get to prison there if you take your Ritalin with you.

cpursley 6y ago
Strattera is legal in Russia (its a slightly different class of drug)

kayodelycaon 6y ago

I live in Ohio. ADHD meds are not that difficult to get. There’s some frustrating paperwork but that’s literally it. Any doctor can prescribe stimulant medication. Bipolar medication on the other hand, many of my bipolar friends in Europe have difficulty getting proper medication, much less proper treatment. In the US, the only issue I had was finding a psychiatrist and therapist who was available. The problem is cost. If I had ended up getting sent to inpatient treatment (nearly happened), the bill would have been huge.

DanBC 6y ago
> Bipolar medication on the other hand, many of my bipolar friends in Europe have difficulty getting proper medication, much less proper treatment. It's hard to have a conversation when you talk about "europe", where there are a dozen different healthcare systems. Here in the UK treatment (including medication) is easily available to anyone who needs it.
falcolas 6y ago
The lady who runs "How To ADHD" on YouTube recently discussed her issues in getting a prescription after moving. A slice of the challenges she faced: - Few psychiatrists/doctors were willing to prescribe meds to an adult. - You can't call to check on availability of Schedule II medications from pharmacies, you have to query in person, and many require a prescription before they'll answer. - Insurance often requires pre-approval to pay for the meds - another hoop and another delay. - You can only ever get one month prescription at a time (with no refills), and have to contact your doctor every month. Not too early, not too late. Any one of these issues can be tough when you have an executive function disorder (poor short term memory, poor awareness of time, etc.), and especially if you run out of your meds and are fighting yourself just to do basic self care.
- ketamine__ 6y ago
  > Few psychiatrists/doctors were willing to prescribe meds to an adult. Never had an issue with this and I have frequently switched doctors. I'd suggest finding a prescribing nurse practitioner. It's hard to find a psychiatrist without waiting six months for the first appointment. > You can't call to check on availability of Schedule II medications from pharmacies, you have to query in person, and many require a prescription before they'll answer. I drop three prescriptions off at a time. Or it's called in and then I call for refills. If they don't have it in stock they can probably order it. > You can only ever get one month prescription at a time (with no refills), and have to contact your doctor every month. Not too early, not too late. I've had five or six psychiatrists. All of them prescribe 3 months in advance after the prescription is stabilized.