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IIRC, Azul is a hardware vendor for the JVM ... can you please share a public source on this collaboration between Azul & Microsoft?

by ayewo 6y ago

pjmlp 6y ago
Sure, here sparing you the effort to learn how to use Google or whatever search engine you like using. https://www.infoq.com/news/2020/09/microsoft-windows-mac-arm/ https://www.infoq.com/news/2020/09/microsoft-windows-mac-arm...
- ayewo 6y ago
  Thanks for the link but there was no need for you to be patronizing about it. FWIW, I originally thought your mention of Azul was a typo, so I parsed your comment as "Azure and Microsoft" before I realized the tautology, which was why I posted the question. I didn't realize that Azul had pivoted to be a software-based vendor of the JVM.
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    I answered like that because of what looked like a snarky comment.
dkersten 6y ago
I don’t think Azul have sold hardware in a few years. Their current offerings, Zing and Zulu, are cross platform JVMs and don’t appear to be sold with any hardware.
- ghaff 6y ago
  Azul was originally a hardware vendor with Java-optimized silicon. They haven't sold hardware AFAIK for probably over a decade.
  - dkersten 6y ago
    Yes, they used to have hardware with a ton of cores/cpu's and large amounts of RAM if I remember correctly.
    - ghaff 6y ago
      Yeah, it was around the time that thread-level parallelism was getting a lot of love. As I recall, they had some massive number of cores directly connected to each other and garbage collection at least partly in hardware. They got burned for pretty much the same reason a lot of the other custom CPU hardware of the time got burned; if you could just wait for Intel to double performance in a couple years it wasn't really worth going with some one-off design for a temporary advantage.
frant-hartm 6y ago
This is the actual JEP https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/391 https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/391. This is an early access build from today https://github.com/microsoft/openjdk-aarch64/releases/tag/16-ea%2B10-macos https://github.com/microsoft/openjdk-aarch64/releases/tag/16...

IIRC, Azul is a hardware vendor for the JVM ... can you please share a public source on this collaboration between Azul & Microsoft?

by ayewo 6y ago

IIRC, Azul is a hardware vendor for the JVM ... can you please share a public source on this collaboration between Azul & Microsoft?

pjmlp 6y ago

Sure, here sparing you the effort to learn how to use Google or whatever search engine you like using. https://www.infoq.com/news/2020/09/microsoft-windows-mac-arm/ https://www.infoq.com/news/2020/09/microsoft-windows-mac-arm...

ayewo 6y ago
Thanks for the link but there was no need for you to be patronizing about it. FWIW, I originally thought your mention of Azul was a typo, so I parsed your comment as "Azure and Microsoft" before I realized the tautology, which was why I posted the question. I didn't realize that Azul had pivoted to be a software-based vendor of the JVM.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  I answered like that because of what looked like a snarky comment.

dkersten 6y ago

I don’t think Azul have sold hardware in a few years. Their current offerings, Zing and Zulu, are cross platform JVMs and don’t appear to be sold with any hardware.

ghaff 6y ago
Azul was originally a hardware vendor with Java-optimized silicon. They haven't sold hardware AFAIK for probably over a decade.
- dkersten 6y ago
  Yes, they used to have hardware with a ton of cores/cpu's and large amounts of RAM if I remember correctly.
  - ghaff 6y ago
    Yeah, it was around the time that thread-level parallelism was getting a lot of love. As I recall, they had some massive number of cores directly connected to each other and garbage collection at least partly in hardware. They got burned for pretty much the same reason a lot of the other custom CPU hardware of the time got burned; if you could just wait for Intel to double performance in a couple years it wasn't really worth going with some one-off design for a temporary advantage.

frant-hartm 6y ago

This is the actual JEP https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/391 https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/391. This is an early access build from today https://github.com/microsoft/openjdk-aarch64/releases/tag/16-ea%2B10-macos https://github.com/microsoft/openjdk-aarch64/releases/tag/16...