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It's also funny that Johny Srouji and probably others in his team come from the team at Intel in Israel that "saved" Intel in the early 2000s by designing the I
by hbbio 6y ago
It's also funny that Johny Srouji and probably others in his team come from the team at Intel in Israel that "saved" Intel in the early 2000s by designing the Intel Core architecture which is still used by Intel today.
cf. Anandtech article from 2003:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1083/2 https://www.anandtech.com/show/1083/2
- kar1181 6y agoDid not know that, and indeed the pentium m / core / core 2 series microarches have done incredibly well. I've become something of CPU collector in recent years, and I have a nice line of p6 cpus from thePentium Pro -> Pentium 2 -> Pentium 3 -> Pentium M -> Core 2 that conveniently sidesteps those awful Netburst p4 CPUs. It feels like this (p6+) microarch has finally run out of road and needs a rethink. What 'saved' intel was a change in philosophy rather than chasing MHz they chased power savings. And with Apple's new chips that history is repeating itself (and appears to be with a similar outcome). It's an exciting time for hardware again because Intel and AMD are going to have to react to this and I think there's still legs to x86, it's survived everything thats been thrown at it so far...
- m12k 6y agoIt's fascinating to see history repeated - the architecture and design with the most power efficiency generally also turns out to be the one that can be pushed furthest for performance when you want to go that route.
- nuker 6y ago> I've become something of CPU collector in recent years, and I have a nice line of p6 cpus from thePentium Pro I bought i486DX for $20 month ago, as a memo of my first CPU.
- intricatedetail 6y agoI got a Pentium 100 last month with a motherboard and a psu. I plan to run W95. It's going to be fun!
- pantulis 6y ago"I think there's still legs to x86, it's survived everything thats been thrown at it so far..." Also, some one, some day, had to disrupt it. Maybe this is it, maybe not.
- Skunkleton 6y agoThat's an interesting observation. It holds true in other areas as well. For example, we have lots of high horsepower cars as the result of R&D effort into high efficiency engines.
- Fnoord 6y agoSome people are priceless. One of the designers of Ryzen, Jim Keller [1], for example. [1] https://www.anandtech.com/show/12689/cpu-design-guru-jim-keller-joins-intel https://www.anandtech.com/show/12689/cpu-design-guru-jim-kel...
- Tsiklon 6y agoJim also lead the team behind the Apple A4 and A5 SOCs - Apple's first venture into designing their own Silicon. Edit: hadn't clicked through to your article. my comment is redundant
- jodrellblank 6y agoAnd now he’s left Intel https://www.anandtech.com/show/15846/jim-keller-resigns-from-intel-effective-immediately https://www.anandtech.com/show/15846/jim-keller-resigns-from...
- intricatedetail 6y agoIt is sad that engineers like him are not multi billionaires, but it all gets pocketed by investors, who don't even pay the same tax as people who actually do the work...
- fiftyfifty 6y agoIt's also worth pointing out that Apple is also benefitting from TSMC's latest and best fab processes. Intel is not only behind architecturally but in manufacturing too: https://www.macworld.com/article/3572624/tsmc-details-its-future-5nm-and-3nm-manufacturing-processesheres-what-it-means-for-apple-silicon.html https://www.macworld.com/article/3572624/tsmc-details-its-fu...