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Not quite. You can't synthetically compare one chip to another and draw organic conclusions. Apple computers with M1 don't support the software that I use. That

Not quite. You can't synthetically compare one chip to another and draw organic conclusions. Apple computers with M1 don't support the software that I use. That's why I bought a fully spec'd Intel MBP13 today. All this talk about battery life and benchmarks gets flipped on its head when I can't use the product in the real world.

manojlds 6y ago
Isn't there Rosetta that they talked about?
- 0x008 6y ago
  And with rosetta it is certainly slower than running it native on x86
  - manojlds 6y ago
    Maybe, maybe not? https://twitter.com/Catfish_Man/status/1326238434235568128 https://twitter.com/Catfish_Man/status/1326238434235568128
- totalZero 6y ago
  It's an emulator, not a panacea. "Rosetta is meant to ease the transition to Apple silicon, giving you time to create a universal binary for your app. It is not a substitute for creating a native version of your app.” https://developer.apple.com/documentation/apple_silicon/about_the_rosetta_translation_environment https://developer.apple.com/documentation/apple_silicon/abou...
  - manojlds 6y ago
    It's a stop gap yes, but I am replying to someone that said their apps will not run on these new machines. And check my reply to a sibling comment where people are finding cases where Rosetta is faster than native.
    - totalZero 6y ago
      Actually, you're replying to me. Check the usernames. You can't run Windows on these things, and Rosetta 2 doesn't fully support kexts, VMs, or certain instruction sets. It's a translator and it's going to be imperfect in practice. That's why it's not intended to supplant development with native instructions. Your other comment is a tweet regarding one function that is speculatively faster, but tells me nothing about real-world performance -- nor whether the tools I use for my business are going to be supported by Apple Silicon in the next few months.

manojlds 6y ago

Isn't there Rosetta that they talked about?

0x008 6y ago
And with rosetta it is certainly slower than running it native on x86
- manojlds 6y ago
  Maybe, maybe not? https://twitter.com/Catfish_Man/status/1326238434235568128 https://twitter.com/Catfish_Man/status/1326238434235568128
totalZero 6y ago
It's an emulator, not a panacea. "Rosetta is meant to ease the transition to Apple silicon, giving you time to create a universal binary for your app. It is not a substitute for creating a native version of your app.” https://developer.apple.com/documentation/apple_silicon/about_the_rosetta_translation_environment https://developer.apple.com/documentation/apple_silicon/abou...
- manojlds 6y ago
  It's a stop gap yes, but I am replying to someone that said their apps will not run on these new machines. And check my reply to a sibling comment where people are finding cases where Rosetta is faster than native.
  - totalZero 6y ago
    Actually, you're replying to me. Check the usernames. You can't run Windows on these things, and Rosetta 2 doesn't fully support kexts, VMs, or certain instruction sets. It's a translator and it's going to be imperfect in practice. That's why it's not intended to supplant development with native instructions. Your other comment is a tweet regarding one function that is speculatively faster, but tells me nothing about real-world performance -- nor whether the tools I use for my business are going to be supported by Apple Silicon in the next few months.