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A Ryzen 4800u actually uses up to 25W TDP, depending upon implementation. And it’s 45% slower in single core. Most importantly, the M1 is estimated to cost A
by valuearb 6y ago
A Ryzen 4800u actually uses up to 25W TDP, depending upon implementation.
And it’s 45% slower in single core.
Most importantly, the M1 is estimated to cost Apple $65, the 4800u is a $300+ part.
- olnluis 6y agoUnlikely OEM's are paying 300+ for a 4800u. Certainly more than $65, though.
- buran77 6y agoThat makes sense, AMD is selling to OEMs for a profit (over cost) while Apple is its own OEM, if any charging is done it's purely internal and for accounting purposes. This comparison looks at different segments of the fab<>manufacturer<>OEM relationship. Add the user in there and you might say that you can buy an AMD CPU for $100 but an Apple CPU will cost you $1000. Not very meaningful as a comparison.
- valuearb 6y agoCertainly more than $200, so what’s your point?
- distances 6y agoThat price is a meaningless comparison, you can't buy the Apple processor in retail. What's the cost to procedure the AMD part? Something similar I'd guess.
- valuearb 6y agoAMD on it’s current hot steak has gotten its gross profit margins to 43%, which would make the cost to manufacture a $300 part around $171. Two and a half times higher cost to build a slower, more power hungry CPU is not actually very similar.
- mahkeiro 6y agoYeah using the gross margin of the whole company and applying it to a single product is going to provide a reliable figure...
- valuearb 6y agoIt’s how companies price their products. Is it perfect? No, but that’s why I used the word “around”. You can argue that this particular Ryzen has a higher gross margin, say 50%, and lower ASP than $300, but that only gets your cost down to what, $140? And with RAM costing extra.
- dannyw 6y agohow much of the $300 goes to the retailer? how much goes to the distributor?
- ant6n 6y agoHow much goes to R&D?
- btgeekboy 6y agoNot to mention I believe the RAM is included on the M1 SOC.