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I like the site and it looks like it has lots of useful information. The evangelism is uncomfortable for me, does not pertain to motorcycle repair.

Werewolf255 6y ago
The religious portion was the most beautifully hysterical part of the site though. I clicked the top link thinking the domain was moving only to find its availability was about to be limited by my own mortality.
inquirerofsorts 6y ago
> evangelism Bizarre take, it's one sentence at the top of his page of motorcycle knowledge. The average HN comment wanks on with more far useless fluff in an attempt to look smart. Is it really that hard to accept other people holding different views? And does it really warrant a comment about how it makes you feel uncomfortable despite all the work that has been freely provided for your benefit? I'm a stout atheist and grew up fixing a dozen or so bikes mainly learning from this site and online manuals. I owe Dan an invaluable amount and couldn't care less about his beliefs. Try being a bit more inclusive in life, you might learn something.
- benignslime 6y ago
  Try being a little less forthcoming, you might share more.
- annoyingnoob 6y ago
  I didn't say that I hold it against him or that I was offended. Just that it makes me uncomfortable. There are at least 3 references to religion in the first 3rd of the repair course page, including 'The Ultimate Shop Manual' link. Dan's ultimate shop manual won't tell you anything about motorcycles or motorcycle repair and does not belong in the middle of a 'repair course'. I like HN for interesting technical info like Dan has here. But I'm not here for religion.
- chronolitus 6y ago
  lesson 7: http://www.dansmc.com/bible1.htm http://www.dansmc.com/bible1.htm I don't really mind, it adds a personal touch to his website and he seems like a fantastic guy. To play devil's advocate, it might be that in secular cultures its a little unusual to mix things like this. Like if youtube cooking guides had a 2 minute segment on muslim religion. Not horrible, just not the norm everywhere. (it would never have occurred to me to write an "atheist motorcycle guide" until now: "bike won't start, what could be the reasons? 1. Spark plugs are fouled 2. Battery's empty 3. God is dead")
0_____0 6y ago
can i psychoanalyze you for a sec here and ask you to delve into why that makes you uncomfortable? for context, to me (lifetime atheist) it looks roughly equivalent to someone sticking some hippie nonsense in a blog post. not particularly relevant to the content but a bit of personal minutiae. do you have a history with religion or situations where you felt pressured to conform to religious norms perhaps? or something else entirely?
names_are_hard 6y ago
It's not my cup of tea either, but it's one of the things I like about this site. It represents a previous era of the internet, when people put whatever they wanted up on their personal sites. Nowadays we're all carefully curating an image, crafting our messages, and optimizing our content to fit our audience. This guy is not interested in any of that. He has something to say so he says it. He doesn't seem to care much how it's perceived, he's not trying to make money off of it, he doesn't care how it looks or if it has good SEO (at least as far as I can tell...). He's just being himself, with all his quirks and oddities. I think that's why it's so popular on HN right now. It reminds us of the way the web used to be.

Werewolf255 6y ago

The religious portion was the most beautifully hysterical part of the site though. I clicked the top link thinking the domain was moving only to find its availability was about to be limited by my own mortality.

inquirerofsorts 6y ago

> evangelism Bizarre take, it's one sentence at the top of his page of motorcycle knowledge. The average HN comment wanks on with more far useless fluff in an attempt to look smart. Is it really that hard to accept other people holding different views? And does it really warrant a comment about how it makes you feel uncomfortable despite all the work that has been freely provided for your benefit? I'm a stout atheist and grew up fixing a dozen or so bikes mainly learning from this site and online manuals. I owe Dan an invaluable amount and couldn't care less about his beliefs. Try being a bit more inclusive in life, you might learn something.

benignslime 6y ago
Try being a little less forthcoming, you might share more.
annoyingnoob 6y ago
I didn't say that I hold it against him or that I was offended. Just that it makes me uncomfortable. There are at least 3 references to religion in the first 3rd of the repair course page, including 'The Ultimate Shop Manual' link. Dan's ultimate shop manual won't tell you anything about motorcycles or motorcycle repair and does not belong in the middle of a 'repair course'. I like HN for interesting technical info like Dan has here. But I'm not here for religion.
chronolitus 6y ago
lesson 7: http://www.dansmc.com/bible1.htm http://www.dansmc.com/bible1.htm I don't really mind, it adds a personal touch to his website and he seems like a fantastic guy. To play devil's advocate, it might be that in secular cultures its a little unusual to mix things like this. Like if youtube cooking guides had a 2 minute segment on muslim religion. Not horrible, just not the norm everywhere. (it would never have occurred to me to write an "atheist motorcycle guide" until now: "bike won't start, what could be the reasons? 1. Spark plugs are fouled 2. Battery's empty 3. God is dead")

0_____0 6y ago

can i psychoanalyze you for a sec here and ask you to delve into why that makes you uncomfortable? for context, to me (lifetime atheist) it looks roughly equivalent to someone sticking some hippie nonsense in a blog post. not particularly relevant to the content but a bit of personal minutiae. do you have a history with religion or situations where you felt pressured to conform to religious norms perhaps? or something else entirely?

names_are_hard 6y ago

It's not my cup of tea either, but it's one of the things I like about this site. It represents a previous era of the internet, when people put whatever they wanted up on their personal sites. Nowadays we're all carefully curating an image, crafting our messages, and optimizing our content to fit our audience. This guy is not interested in any of that. He has something to say so he says it. He doesn't seem to care much how it's perceived, he's not trying to make money off of it, he doesn't care how it looks or if it has good SEO (at least as far as I can tell...). He's just being himself, with all his quirks and oddities. I think that's why it's so popular on HN right now. It reminds us of the way the web used to be.