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Don't forget Ruby. Only Ruby (and Clojure) can liberate the mind enough to facilitate such flights of fancy :)
by cutler 6y ago
Don't forget Ruby. Only Ruby (and Clojure) can liberate the mind enough to facilitate such flights of fancy :)
- leetrout 6y agoIt really is a pretentiousness held in a group of language zealots. You don’t hear the same about Nim, for example(yet?), In my experience. I don’t deny Ruby’s impact on the industry I just have a hard time with the attitudes prevalent in the devs I’ve worked with... it is strikingly stereotypical.
- cambalache 6y agoComplains about the "pretentiousness" of Ruby developers (Out all the languages!). Proceeds to mention Nim. Rub his mustache, drink his kombucha a put another vinyl.
- hobby-coder-guy 6y agoThis comment made me laugh. Thank you. Also, Rust is better than Nim, Kefir is more cool, moustaches aren’t as great as man-buns, and reel-to-reel is the only way to listen to music.
- thom 6y agoThis is a real shame, I think, because the same things that made Ruby and its community such a revelation in the early years of this century (as a sort of revolt against enterprise development and especially the Java ecosystem), make me quite like Nim in a world with the complexity of C++ and the restraints of Rust. To be clear I happen to like all these languages but I also value their many contrasting personalities.
- dialamac 6y agoI don’t see your point. A large base of Nim users are looking for a pragmatic alternative to the C/C++ family without the aggressive anti-modernism of Go. Nim is certainly not the only player in this realm, but far as I know there isn’t a “Nim Drama” Twitter or tumblr. The drama queen stereotype of Ruby and Rails is very well earned on a repeated basis. All the communities have had their dramas but Ruby and Rust to a lesser extent seem to attract it a lot more as a pattern.
- cambalache 6y ago> A large base of Nim users are looking for a pragmatic alternative to the C/C++ family without the aggressive anti-modernism of Go. You guys make this too easy. Unless it was sarcasm, so whoosh me, and chapeau!
- ImprobableTruth 6y agoWell, you sure make a good case for Rubyists being incredibly pretentious.
- ForHackernews 6y agoHardly anyone uses Nim. It's extremely niche, even compared to something like Rust. That's why there's no Nim infighting. Before you can have dozens of people fighting about a thing, you need more than a dozen people to care about that thing.
- dom96 6y agoOh believe me. There definitely is infighting. The people doing the infighting just haven’t started trying to involve the wider audience (yet?) :)
- uncomputation 6y ago> It really is a pretentiousness held in a group of language zealots. Can’t tell if this is ironic or not, but Rubyists are pretty well known as the friendliest out of all language communities, and have been for over a decade now
- leetrout 6y agoNo, I’m not being ironic. And as an entire, stereotyped group Rubyists sure are nice. Pretentious doesn’t mean rude or unwelcoming and I don’t want to insinuate that.
- devilduck 6y agoIt's great to have an opinion, but the idea of believing that Rubyists are a pretentious group of people, that itself is pretty pretentious. Beware your own pits lest you fall into them yourself
- treeman79 6y agoWe had the rock star solo developer phase. Thankfully we grew out of it.
- WJW 6y ago
- nurettin 6y agoWe are always on the receiving end of some claims. The feeling of easy accomplishment and unhindered flow is not something you get from every language out there, and not all languages explicitly advertise themselves as "maximizing developer happiness". I've never focused on lisp or emacs, but I am neutral towards their claims that god wrote the universe in lisp. Same with a perl user's claims of succinctness. I don't judge or envy them. Won't know until I learn the language and its tooling. And you won't really know until you try chaining a few map/reduce/select operations and have them compute lazily in ruby.