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This isn't like the first person biting into a new apple variety for the first time... this is like the first person growing an apple from scratch in their stom

This isn't like the first person biting into a new apple variety for the first time... this is like the first person growing an apple from scratch in their stomach, using techniques that have never before been approved for human use. I can't think of a single existing drug that works like that, because there hasn't been one. Food doesn't reprogram my cells before it "goes out".

whatshisface 6y ago
The first vaccine was a live virus (cowpox), and it reprogrammed your cells in a way stronger sense than an mRNA injection does.
- hashtagmarkup 6y ago
  Yeah... and that's why cowpox was bad. If your immune system realizes the source of the spike proteins is your own reprogrammed cells, and then attacks them, it will lead to cascade autoimmune disorders mimicking the symptoms of AIDS.
  - whatshisface 6y ago
    I don't know where you're getting this information from, AIDS isn't an autoimmune disorder. HIV destroys immune cells directly. The symptoms are mainly from secondary infections. Also, if your immune system realizes that your own cells are making virus particles, it will destroy them... and every other cell will survive. That's what happens when you catch a cold - every virus works that way. mRNA is even better because it probably won't cause any of your cells to get targeted for destruction. The failure mechanism you're proposing would at worst make it as bad as some other vaccines.
    - hashtagmarkup 6y ago
      I don't know why you don't see the difference between similar symptoms and similar mechanisms. A compromised immune system spiraling out of control attacking itself looks the same from the outside. I do know where you're not getting information from, as there isn't any... because it's never been approved for human testing.
      - whatshisface 6y ago
        >it's never been approved for human testing. That's not accurate, there have been several studies where mRNA vaccines have been tested. They were previously being developed for cancer treatment.
        hashtagmarkup 6y ago
        It's never been approved for human testing *until now under the administration of a lame duck lunatic begging for a reason to take credit for a solution. How did those cancer treatments pan out? Why weren't they FDA approved?

whatshisface 6y ago

The first vaccine was a live virus (cowpox), and it reprogrammed your cells in a way stronger sense than an mRNA injection does.

hashtagmarkup 6y ago
Yeah... and that's why cowpox was bad. If your immune system realizes the source of the spike proteins is your own reprogrammed cells, and then attacks them, it will lead to cascade autoimmune disorders mimicking the symptoms of AIDS.
- whatshisface 6y ago
  I don't know where you're getting this information from, AIDS isn't an autoimmune disorder. HIV destroys immune cells directly. The symptoms are mainly from secondary infections. Also, if your immune system realizes that your own cells are making virus particles, it will destroy them... and every other cell will survive. That's what happens when you catch a cold - every virus works that way. mRNA is even better because it probably won't cause any of your cells to get targeted for destruction. The failure mechanism you're proposing would at worst make it as bad as some other vaccines.
  - hashtagmarkup 6y ago
    I don't know why you don't see the difference between similar symptoms and similar mechanisms. A compromised immune system spiraling out of control attacking itself looks the same from the outside. I do know where you're not getting information from, as there isn't any... because it's never been approved for human testing.
    - whatshisface 6y ago
      >it's never been approved for human testing. That's not accurate, there have been several studies where mRNA vaccines have been tested. They were previously being developed for cancer treatment.
      - hashtagmarkup 6y ago
        It's never been approved for human testing *until now under the administration of a lame duck lunatic begging for a reason to take credit for a solution. How did those cancer treatments pan out? Why weren't they FDA approved?