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Always a complaint about Electron on here. Frankly, Notion and it’s ilk would not be nearly has great or feature rich without Electron. It perhaps wouldn’t even

Always a complaint about Electron on here. Frankly, Notion and it’s ilk would not be nearly has great or feature rich without Electron. It perhaps wouldn’t even exist. Trust, it being an Electron app is a good thing for you, despite its limitations.

testnew2 6y ago
You’re absolutely right. If the performance boost afforded by native apps was more important than the feature set provided native would be winning over electron. But it’s not. If you think I’m wrong you should be excited because there is a massive market opportunity for you.
- jeromenerf 6y ago
  > You’re absolutely right ... If you think I’m wrong ... Is there really a right and wrong yet? There are so many note taking and project management apps, it’s unclear there is yet a dominating leader in usage or tech design. Moreover, native seems to be losing some traction on the desktop, but on mobile?
tomjen3 6y ago
You don't get a productivity boost with electron over something like XAML. What you get is the ability to reuse your web code in an app, access a few more APIs and call it "native". Most apps today are so bloody slow they are unworkable. Remember your program absolutely positively have to respond in under 100 milliseconds or won't be perceived as instant and will thus be a hindrance to thought, rather than a benefit to it.
guessmyname 6y ago
> Frankly, Notion and it’s ilk would not be nearly has great or feature rich without Electron. It perhaps wouldn’t even exist. Trust, it being an Electron app is a good thing for you, despite its limitations. Google Mail (Gmail) is very successful despite not having an official desktop application, even though Electron and other web wrappers exist. I am confident that Slack, Discord, Messenger, WhatsApp, Notion, among other web applications, would exist without Electron, and the features would be the same. If you are a macOS user and want to have a better experience with hybrid web applications, I highly recommend Fluid [1] or Unite [2]. They both create wrappers for web applications using WebKit, which performs several times better than Chromium on macOS. [1] https://fluidapp.com https://fluidapp.com [2] https://www.bzgapps.com/unite https://www.bzgapps.com/unite
hackerbob 6y ago
Discord is also an Electron app and I see few complaints. Sometimes it just the case that some apps give the rest a bad name.
peteretep 6y ago
> Notion and it’s ilk would not be nearly has great or feature rich without Electron I’ve been using Notion _hard_ for the last couple of months and only just realised people use it outside of the browser, so I’m not going to agree with that
slightwinder 6y ago
That's far from being the truth. The only benefit electron brings is one codebase which can server multiple device-platforms. Without electron you would need separate clients for desktop, mobile and web. But what notion is offering in terms of features is not so special. Can be easily done on desktop with classical GUI-frameworks. I know it because I already did things like that 10+ years ago.

testnew2 6y ago

You’re absolutely right. If the performance boost afforded by native apps was more important than the feature set provided native would be winning over electron. But it’s not. If you think I’m wrong you should be excited because there is a massive market opportunity for you.

jeromenerf 6y ago
> You’re absolutely right ... If you think I’m wrong ... Is there really a right and wrong yet? There are so many note taking and project management apps, it’s unclear there is yet a dominating leader in usage or tech design. Moreover, native seems to be losing some traction on the desktop, but on mobile?

tomjen3 6y ago

You don't get a productivity boost with electron over something like XAML. What you get is the ability to reuse your web code in an app, access a few more APIs and call it "native". Most apps today are so bloody slow they are unworkable. Remember your program absolutely positively have to respond in under 100 milliseconds or won't be perceived as instant and will thus be a hindrance to thought, rather than a benefit to it.

guessmyname 6y ago

> Frankly, Notion and it’s ilk would not be nearly has great or feature rich without Electron. It perhaps wouldn’t even exist. Trust, it being an Electron app is a good thing for you, despite its limitations. Google Mail (Gmail) is very successful despite not having an official desktop application, even though Electron and other web wrappers exist. I am confident that Slack, Discord, Messenger, WhatsApp, Notion, among other web applications, would exist without Electron, and the features would be the same. If you are a macOS user and want to have a better experience with hybrid web applications, I highly recommend Fluid [1] or Unite [2]. They both create wrappers for web applications using WebKit, which performs several times better than Chromium on macOS. [1] https://fluidapp.com https://fluidapp.com [2] https://www.bzgapps.com/unite https://www.bzgapps.com/unite

hackerbob 6y ago

Discord is also an Electron app and I see few complaints. Sometimes it just the case that some apps give the rest a bad name.

peteretep 6y ago

> Notion and it’s ilk would not be nearly has great or feature rich without Electron I’ve been using Notion _hard_ for the last couple of months and only just realised people use it outside of the browser, so I’m not going to agree with that

slightwinder 6y ago

That's far from being the truth. The only benefit electron brings is one codebase which can server multiple device-platforms. Without electron you would need separate clients for desktop, mobile and web. But what notion is offering in terms of features is not so special. Can be easily done on desktop with classical GUI-frameworks. I know it because I already did things like that 10+ years ago.