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>especially given what has been done to Gmail — your mail is being fed to machines and used to build an advertising profile for you. Google has not mined email

>especially given what has been done to Gmail — your mail is being fed to machines and used to build an advertising profile for you. Google has not mined emails in GMail for ad targeting for years now: https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in-the-enterprise-g-suites-gmail-and-consumer-gmail-to-more-closely-align/ https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in...

wizzwizz4 6y ago
They have, however, let (apparently) arbitrary third-parties have access to said emails.
- joshuamorton 6y ago
  Context? This sounds nefarious, but for all we know you're talking about the people in the To line.
  - wizzwizz4 6y ago
    According to Google, it's “apps” – but this isn't Android apps; it's something that lets them directly fetch your emails from Google. I think it might be associated with OAuth, but despite their incredibly clear privacy policy I'm still not sure who exactly it is. Don't worry; I'm fairly sure it doesn't happen unless you click through a pop-up.
    - dragonwriter 6y ago
      Are you just saying "Gmail has an API, and it is possible to authorize apps to access your Gmail via the API", which will be listed (along with every other app with access to your Google Account in any way) in your account permissions page @ https://myaccount.google.com/permissions https://myaccount.google.com/permissions Or something else?
      - wizzwizz4 6y ago
        It would be very embarrassing if I were. I vaguely remember it being something Bad, but I didn't make notes on it.
jwr 6y ago
Ok, I stand corrected. Your mail WAS fed to machines and used to build an advertising profile for you. I am constantly amazed and how people trust and defend corporations like Google, given what the incentives are. Why do you think Google provides services like GMail or Google Photos? Look at their revenue streams: it's an ad-tech company.
- three_seagrass 6y ago
  >I am constantly amazed and how people trust and defend corporations like Google, given what the incentives are. Why do you think Google provides services like GMail or Google Photos? I'm not sure how you got that out of my comment. I was stating a fact.

wizzwizz4 6y ago

They have, however, let (apparently) arbitrary third-parties have access to said emails.

joshuamorton 6y ago
Context? This sounds nefarious, but for all we know you're talking about the people in the To line.
- wizzwizz4 6y ago
  According to Google, it's “apps” – but this isn't Android apps; it's something that lets them directly fetch your emails from Google. I think it might be associated with OAuth, but despite their incredibly clear privacy policy I'm still not sure who exactly it is. Don't worry; I'm fairly sure it doesn't happen unless you click through a pop-up.
  - dragonwriter 6y ago
    Are you just saying "Gmail has an API, and it is possible to authorize apps to access your Gmail via the API", which will be listed (along with every other app with access to your Google Account in any way) in your account permissions page @ https://myaccount.google.com/permissions https://myaccount.google.com/permissions Or something else?
    - wizzwizz4 6y ago
      It would be very embarrassing if I were. I vaguely remember it being something Bad, but I didn't make notes on it.

jwr 6y ago

Ok, I stand corrected. Your mail WAS fed to machines and used to build an advertising profile for you. I am constantly amazed and how people trust and defend corporations like Google, given what the incentives are. Why do you think Google provides services like GMail or Google Photos? Look at their revenue streams: it's an ad-tech company.

three_seagrass 6y ago
>I am constantly amazed and how people trust and defend corporations like Google, given what the incentives are. Why do you think Google provides services like GMail or Google Photos? I'm not sure how you got that out of my comment. I was stating a fact.