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PyPy: Faster Python with Minimal Effort

44 points by endlesstrax 6y ago

est 6y ago
Easier pypy with minimal effort https://github.com/fijal/jitpy https://github.com/fijal/jitpy
- davelpz 6y ago
  That project hasn't been updated in 6 years
- blackrobot 6y ago
  The author of the repo says to just use pypy. https://github.com/fijal/jitpy/issues/7#issuecomment-333557308 https://github.com/fijal/jitpy/issues/7#issuecomment-3335573...
- alquemist 6y ago
  This is amazing, and obvious in retrospect. Gradual compilation can be adopted, well, gradually, without breaking existing code. 100% upside, 0% downside. PyPy team should consider making this delivery mode the #1 priority. Even worth reconsidering the object management impedance as well, and go for 100% compatibility with CPython object model. I suspect this would have a small runtime cost, but a would be a huge boon for smooth risk-free adoption.
  - est 6y ago
    Back in Python2 days, you just slam "import psyco" and your code magically goes faster. The pysco authors went ahead and invented pypy. Ambitious project, but less popularity.
ed25519FUUU 6y ago
It’s probably a testament to the type of software I typically develop with Python, but I’ve never felt the urge to use PyPy. Even if it’s faster with zero effort, it’s still different. Any time performance has been a concern that application was in Java or Go (for me).
carapace 6y ago
(Pypy also supports Python 2 and will for the foreseeable future.)
sockpuppet_12 6y ago
Why’d they name it PyPy, it sounds phonetically exactly like PyPi. aaaahhh this is going to be so confusing
- heyoni 6y ago
  Phonetically pypi is pronounced py-p-i where as pypy is pie-pie :)
moralsupply 6y ago
How compatible is it nowadays with Numpy, Scipy and the ML toolkits?
dr_kiszonka 6y ago
I just wanted to thank Real Python folks for their excellent free articles. I remember how eye-opening their article about for loops[0] was for me after using Python for a couple of years. I wish there were equivalent websites for other languages and technologies like Android, Flutter, and Julia. [0]: https://realpython.com/python-for-loop/ https://realpython.com/python-for-loop/
aitchnyu 6y ago
Will it still be useful in auto scaling clouds of containers? Or will warmup times stall requests every time a container comes up?

44 points by endlesstrax 6y ago

est 6y ago

Easier pypy with minimal effort https://github.com/fijal/jitpy https://github.com/fijal/jitpy

davelpz 6y ago
That project hasn't been updated in 6 years
blackrobot 6y ago
The author of the repo says to just use pypy. https://github.com/fijal/jitpy/issues/7#issuecomment-333557308 https://github.com/fijal/jitpy/issues/7#issuecomment-3335573...
alquemist 6y ago
This is amazing, and obvious in retrospect. Gradual compilation can be adopted, well, gradually, without breaking existing code. 100% upside, 0% downside. PyPy team should consider making this delivery mode the #1 priority. Even worth reconsidering the object management impedance as well, and go for 100% compatibility with CPython object model. I suspect this would have a small runtime cost, but a would be a huge boon for smooth risk-free adoption.
- est 6y ago
  Back in Python2 days, you just slam "import psyco" and your code magically goes faster. The pysco authors went ahead and invented pypy. Ambitious project, but less popularity.

ed25519FUUU 6y ago

It’s probably a testament to the type of software I typically develop with Python, but I’ve never felt the urge to use PyPy. Even if it’s faster with zero effort, it’s still different. Any time performance has been a concern that application was in Java or Go (for me).

carapace 6y ago

(Pypy also supports Python 2 and will for the foreseeable future.)

sockpuppet_12 6y ago

Why’d they name it PyPy, it sounds phonetically exactly like PyPi. aaaahhh this is going to be so confusing

heyoni 6y ago
Phonetically pypi is pronounced py-p-i where as pypy is pie-pie :)

moralsupply 6y ago

How compatible is it nowadays with Numpy, Scipy and the ML toolkits?

dr_kiszonka 6y ago

I just wanted to thank Real Python folks for their excellent free articles. I remember how eye-opening their article about for loops[0] was for me after using Python for a couple of years. I wish there were equivalent websites for other languages and technologies like Android, Flutter, and Julia. [0]: https://realpython.com/python-for-loop/ https://realpython.com/python-for-loop/

aitchnyu 6y ago

Will it still be useful in auto scaling clouds of containers? Or will warmup times stall requests every time a container comes up?