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Wow, so because I save myself and my employer money by not mindlessly commuting to work everyday I should pay an extra tax? That's one of the most ridiculous id

Wow, so because I save myself and my employer money by not mindlessly commuting to work everyday I should pay an extra tax? That's one of the most ridiculous ideas I've heard so far. It's a bit like taxing cyclists 10 % of their income because they don't support the car industry...

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amf12 6y ago
> It's a bit like taxing cyclists 10 % of their income because they don't support the car industry... Good analogy. But their argument is even worse because they don't look at the other benefits of remote work on the economy.
- varispeed 6y ago
  It is scary that so many so called economists are strangers to the concept of opportunity cost...
  - daniellarusso 6y ago
    Beyond a degree, what qualifications are needed to be an economist?
  - danpalmer 6y ago
    It's much more likely that this comes from a PR team aiming to achieve commercial goals of Deutsche Bank.
    - varispeed 6y ago
      So true.
- candiodari 6y ago
  It is also an extremely weird organisation to suggest this sort of thing. They're definitely not an organisation looking for fairness in the world, I've only ever heard of central banks implement policies for the general benefit or taxation, and then only with great reluctance, usually after their hand got forced. On the other hand they have a huge real estate portfolio (and mortgage portfolio) that I'm sure is now no longer looking like such a smart investment. So they're looking for them and their customers to be the recipients of these grants, no doubt.
  - perl4ever 6y ago
    Deutche Bank is not a "central bank".
VWWHFSfQ 6y ago
I think the point they're trying to make is that the money you and your employer are saving is not going into the economy as it was before, which is having a net-negative effect overall. > Quite simply, our economic system is not set up to cope with people who can disconnect themselves from face-to-face society. So it's plausible that there is actually a problem here with the very sudden change of workforce distribution and how it affects society and the economy. But addressing it by simply taxing employers more for work-from-home jobs is definitely short-slighted. But in the short term it seems that something needs to be done to prop up the system because billions of dollars have left the economy overnight and it will likely never return.
- danesparza 6y ago
  So perhaps the system was broken (and punative measures against remote workers aren't going to fix it). God forbid we question our banking system or other broken systems that have been brought into the light of day since COVID started.
  - nonford150 6y ago
    Exactly! We've built an unsustainable system around consumption by the smaller lot of creators. COVID only exposed it.
- JoeAltmaier 6y ago
  Every business works constantly to reduce cost. How is this cost-saving any different from any other? Should a business that finds a cheaper vendor pay extra tax? And why does the money earned by remote workers, not somehow 'going into the economy'? That's a stretch.

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amf12 6y ago

> It's a bit like taxing cyclists 10 % of their income because they don't support the car industry... Good analogy. But their argument is even worse because they don't look at the other benefits of remote work on the economy.

varispeed 6y ago
It is scary that so many so called economists are strangers to the concept of opportunity cost...
- daniellarusso 6y ago
  Beyond a degree, what qualifications are needed to be an economist?
- danpalmer 6y ago
  It's much more likely that this comes from a PR team aiming to achieve commercial goals of Deutsche Bank.
  - varispeed 6y ago
    So true.
candiodari 6y ago
It is also an extremely weird organisation to suggest this sort of thing. They're definitely not an organisation looking for fairness in the world, I've only ever heard of central banks implement policies for the general benefit or taxation, and then only with great reluctance, usually after their hand got forced. On the other hand they have a huge real estate portfolio (and mortgage portfolio) that I'm sure is now no longer looking like such a smart investment. So they're looking for them and their customers to be the recipients of these grants, no doubt.
- perl4ever 6y ago
  Deutche Bank is not a "central bank".

VWWHFSfQ 6y ago

I think the point they're trying to make is that the money you and your employer are saving is not going into the economy as it was before, which is having a net-negative effect overall. > Quite simply, our economic system is not set up to cope with people who can disconnect themselves from face-to-face society. So it's plausible that there is actually a problem here with the very sudden change of workforce distribution and how it affects society and the economy. But addressing it by simply taxing employers more for work-from-home jobs is definitely short-slighted. But in the short term it seems that something needs to be done to prop up the system because billions of dollars have left the economy overnight and it will likely never return.

danesparza 6y ago
So perhaps the system was broken (and punative measures against remote workers aren't going to fix it). God forbid we question our banking system or other broken systems that have been brought into the light of day since COVID started.
- nonford150 6y ago
  Exactly! We've built an unsustainable system around consumption by the smaller lot of creators. COVID only exposed it.
JoeAltmaier 6y ago
Every business works constantly to reduce cost. How is this cost-saving any different from any other? Should a business that finds a cheaper vendor pay extra tax? And why does the money earned by remote workers, not somehow 'going into the economy'? That's a stretch.